EGR delete
First things first
Working EGR system and Catalytic converters do NOT effect the power of any engine, just FYI
That being said if you need to delete EGR system then yes you will need to change spark timing or your 3.0l Vulcan engine will ping/knock
Depending on the year of the 3.0l Ranger/B3000 it may have a Knock sensor which will prevent this, but will also cause a noticeable drop in power
EGR(exhaust gas re-circulation) was added years and years ago to prevent the spike in NOX gases in the exhaust, its a toxic gas
NOX emissions spike when cylinder temps get VERY HOT, like they do during acceleration
This is caused by the sudden RICH air/fuel mix used
By adding "hot" exhaust gases it COOLS the cylinders during this time which lowers the NOX spike, yes hot gases cool the cylinders, lol, go figure
So EGR system is not used when engine is cold, and it only used when engine is under a LOAD, that's when cylinders heat up
But there is also a bonus in this "cooling effect"
An engine will ping/knock from from pre-ignition(self ignition) running regular 87 octane gasoline if cylinders get TOO HOT, octane is a HEAT rating, i.e. 91 octane won't self ignite at same temp as 87, and 93 octane won't self ignite at same temp as 91, higher octane number means less sensitive to heat and self ignition
Spark timing in any engine must be set for the type of fuel you will run, most US vehicles are set up for 87 octane, regular gas
Without an EGR system spark must happen earlier to avoid pre-ignition, but this lowers power
With an EGR system a more aggressive spark timing can be used for better power
Some engines use a Knock sensor, these can run a more aggressive spark but it will go back to less aggressive if Knocks are detected, you won't hear the ping/knock, sensor can detect it before its audible
This is what pre-ignition does to inside of the head: https://bmwmotorcycletech.info/ValveLetGo-Head.jpg
And here is what it does to pistons: https://d3hbcrfcqdtpdz.cloudfront.ne...cf4f92e5fb.jpg
Worse case scenario, lol, but it happens
Working EGR system and Catalytic converters do NOT effect the power of any engine, just FYI
That being said if you need to delete EGR system then yes you will need to change spark timing or your 3.0l Vulcan engine will ping/knock
Depending on the year of the 3.0l Ranger/B3000 it may have a Knock sensor which will prevent this, but will also cause a noticeable drop in power
EGR(exhaust gas re-circulation) was added years and years ago to prevent the spike in NOX gases in the exhaust, its a toxic gas
NOX emissions spike when cylinder temps get VERY HOT, like they do during acceleration
This is caused by the sudden RICH air/fuel mix used
By adding "hot" exhaust gases it COOLS the cylinders during this time which lowers the NOX spike, yes hot gases cool the cylinders, lol, go figure
So EGR system is not used when engine is cold, and it only used when engine is under a LOAD, that's when cylinders heat up
But there is also a bonus in this "cooling effect"
An engine will ping/knock from from pre-ignition(self ignition) running regular 87 octane gasoline if cylinders get TOO HOT, octane is a HEAT rating, i.e. 91 octane won't self ignite at same temp as 87, and 93 octane won't self ignite at same temp as 91, higher octane number means less sensitive to heat and self ignition
Spark timing in any engine must be set for the type of fuel you will run, most US vehicles are set up for 87 octane, regular gas
Without an EGR system spark must happen earlier to avoid pre-ignition, but this lowers power
With an EGR system a more aggressive spark timing can be used for better power
Some engines use a Knock sensor, these can run a more aggressive spark but it will go back to less aggressive if Knocks are detected, you won't hear the ping/knock, sensor can detect it before its audible
This is what pre-ignition does to inside of the head: https://bmwmotorcycletech.info/ValveLetGo-Head.jpg
And here is what it does to pistons: https://d3hbcrfcqdtpdz.cloudfront.ne...cf4f92e5fb.jpg
Worse case scenario, lol, but it happens
Last edited by RonD; May 3, 2020 at 01:02 PM.
First things first
Working EGR system and Catalytic converters do NOT effect the power of any engine, just FYI
That being said if you need to delete EGR system then yes you will need to change spark timing or your 3.0l Vulcan engine will ping/knock
Depending on the year of the 3.0l Ranger/B3000 it may have a Knock sensor which will prevent this, but will also cause a noticeable drop in power
EGR(exhaust gas re-circulation) was added years and years ago to prevent the spike in NOX gases in the exhaust, its a toxic gas
NOX emissions spike when cylinder temps get VERY HOT, like they do during acceleration
This is caused by the sudden RICH air/fuel mix used
By adding "hot" exhaust gases it COOLS the cylinders during this time which lowers the NOX spike, yes hot gases cool the cylinders, lol, go figure
So EGR system is not used when engine is cold, and it only used when engine is under a LOAD, that's when cylinders heat up
But there is also a bonus in this "cooling effect"
An engine will ping/knock from from pre-ignition(self ignition) running regular 87 octane gasoline if cylinders get TOO HOT, octane is a HEAT rating, i.e. 91 octane won't self ignite at same temp as 87, and 93 octane won't self ignite at same temp as 91, higher octane number means less sensitive to heat and self ignition
Spark timing in any engine must be set for the type of fuel you will run, most US vehicles are set up for 87 octane, regular gas
Without an EGR system spark must happen earlier to avoid pre-ignition, but this lowers power
With an EGR system a more aggressive spark timing can be used for better power
Some engines use a Knock sensor, these can run a more aggressive spark but it will go back to less aggressive if Knocks are detected, you won't hear the ping/knock, sensor can detect it before its audible
This is what pre-ignition does to inside of the head: https://bmwmotorcycletech.info/ValveLetGo-Head.jpg
And here is what it does to pistons: https://d3hbcrfcqdtpdz.cloudfront.ne...cf4f92e5fb.jpg
Worse case scenario, lol, but it happens
Working EGR system and Catalytic converters do NOT effect the power of any engine, just FYI
That being said if you need to delete EGR system then yes you will need to change spark timing or your 3.0l Vulcan engine will ping/knock
Depending on the year of the 3.0l Ranger/B3000 it may have a Knock sensor which will prevent this, but will also cause a noticeable drop in power
EGR(exhaust gas re-circulation) was added years and years ago to prevent the spike in NOX gases in the exhaust, its a toxic gas
NOX emissions spike when cylinder temps get VERY HOT, like they do during acceleration
This is caused by the sudden RICH air/fuel mix used
By adding "hot" exhaust gases it COOLS the cylinders during this time which lowers the NOX spike, yes hot gases cool the cylinders, lol, go figure
So EGR system is not used when engine is cold, and it only used when engine is under a LOAD, that's when cylinders heat up
But there is also a bonus in this "cooling effect"
An engine will ping/knock from from pre-ignition(self ignition) running regular 87 octane gasoline if cylinders get TOO HOT, octane is a HEAT rating, i.e. 91 octane won't self ignite at same temp as 87, and 93 octane won't self ignite at same temp as 91, higher octane number means less sensitive to heat and self ignition
Spark timing in any engine must be set for the type of fuel you will run, most US vehicles are set up for 87 octane, regular gas
Without an EGR system spark must happen earlier to avoid pre-ignition, but this lowers power
With an EGR system a more aggressive spark timing can be used for better power
Some engines use a Knock sensor, these can run a more aggressive spark but it will go back to less aggressive if Knocks are detected, you won't hear the ping/knock, sensor can detect it before its audible
This is what pre-ignition does to inside of the head: https://bmwmotorcycletech.info/ValveLetGo-Head.jpg
And here is what it does to pistons: https://d3hbcrfcqdtpdz.cloudfront.ne...cf4f92e5fb.jpg
Worse case scenario, lol, but it happens
so you’re saying if I delete the egr I could actually hurt my engine? how can I tell if my egr is bad? I think I may have a bad egr? Also do you happen to know anything about the gauges on the dash? I did some research and I heard that they’re practically switches, so there’s no inbetween, it’s pretty much one side or the Other, I’m only saying this because every once in a blue moon after a while of driving at idle my oil pressure gauge kinda twitches.
What YEAR Ranger?
Its important
No, on the gauges, only gauge that "may" use a switch sender is oil pressure, so its either ON(oil pressure OK) or OFF(engine off or no oil pressure), so not a big deal
EGR system is for emissions, so would be a monitored system, computer would set a trouble code and turn on CEL(check engine light) if it detected a problem with EGR system
Its important
No, on the gauges, only gauge that "may" use a switch sender is oil pressure, so its either ON(oil pressure OK) or OFF(engine off or no oil pressure), so not a big deal
EGR system is for emissions, so would be a monitored system, computer would set a trouble code and turn on CEL(check engine light) if it detected a problem with EGR system
2000 Ranger uses the EEC-V Computer, the one Ford still uses today, so it will set a code if any of the 3 parts of the EGR system showed a problem
CEL would come on instantly because it is an Emissions system
You can order a Bluetooth OBD2 reader for $15-$30 and use it with a FREE APP on your smart phone to read codes and also WATCH Live data from sensors while driving
These work on ANY vehicle sold in the US or Canada since 1996, its the Law, so not a Ford specific thing, a good tool to have if you plan on driving any cars for a few years
CEL would come on instantly because it is an Emissions system
You can order a Bluetooth OBD2 reader for $15-$30 and use it with a FREE APP on your smart phone to read codes and also WATCH Live data from sensors while driving
These work on ANY vehicle sold in the US or Canada since 1996, its the Law, so not a Ford specific thing, a good tool to have if you plan on driving any cars for a few years
2000 Ranger uses the EEC-V Computer, the one Ford still uses today, so it will set a code if any of the 3 parts of the EGR system showed a problem
CEL would come on instantly because it is an Emissions system
You can order a Bluetooth OBD2 reader for $15-$30 and use it with a FREE APP on your smart phone to read codes and also WATCH Live data from sensors while driving
These work on ANY vehicle sold in the US or Canada since 1996, its the Law, so not a Ford specific thing, a good tool to have if you plan on driving any cars for a few years
CEL would come on instantly because it is an Emissions system
You can order a Bluetooth OBD2 reader for $15-$30 and use it with a FREE APP on your smart phone to read codes and also WATCH Live data from sensors while driving
These work on ANY vehicle sold in the US or Canada since 1996, its the Law, so not a Ford specific thing, a good tool to have if you plan on driving any cars for a few years
CEL has its own fuse, in 2000 its fuse #11, 7.5amp(cab fuse box), computer grounds this bulb to turn it on, it should come on with Key ON, if not then fuse 11 is blown or bulb is burned out
Yes, the cigar lighter and Data Link connector share a 25amp fuse, in 2000 its fuse 17(cab fuse box)
You can, of course, clean the EGR Valve and its tube, the tube is what usually gets clogged up with carbon
Putting any liquids into a running engine has a hazard warning, but using a spray bottle reduces the hazard level
No, Seafoam or just water sprayed into the engine won't cause long term issues, same people say "flushing engine or trans" causes issues, what they forget to mention is that MOST people don't do these things UNLESS they are having a problem, so after a "flush" any problem is "because of the flush", not because of 5 - 10years of 0 maintenance, lmao on that one
If cleaning a part or parts causes a problem then that part was bad already, cleaning didn't cause the issue
Yes, the cigar lighter and Data Link connector share a 25amp fuse, in 2000 its fuse 17(cab fuse box)
You can, of course, clean the EGR Valve and its tube, the tube is what usually gets clogged up with carbon
Putting any liquids into a running engine has a hazard warning, but using a spray bottle reduces the hazard level
No, Seafoam or just water sprayed into the engine won't cause long term issues, same people say "flushing engine or trans" causes issues, what they forget to mention is that MOST people don't do these things UNLESS they are having a problem, so after a "flush" any problem is "because of the flush", not because of 5 - 10years of 0 maintenance, lmao on that one
If cleaning a part or parts causes a problem then that part was bad already, cleaning didn't cause the issue
yeah my check engine light works, it comes on with all the other lights when I turn the key, I have cleaned the EGR already, I think my engine is squared away, I appreciate the help from everyone, I just have a small idle issue, it idles rough, I think its my mass flow air sensor, the black cover on the wiring has a crack, I bet water got in there and messed it up, I will fix that first and go from there
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