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I need camshaft help...

Hey guys and gals. first off let me say hi to all of you. I am looking for a camshaft. here's what I am wanting: a rough type idle with that old school muscle car/Harley Davidson type sound or to make it short and sweet a chopper type sound. A wild cam is what I'm looking for. I have a 3.0 stock V6. My truck is an 04 Ranger Edge. Can anybody please help me out of this mess? There so many camshaft options out there it isn't funny anymore just confusing as hell. plus I am considering roller lifters. the exhaust is pretty much all I have done to it (my truck looks too good to do anything else to it). Can anybody please help me out with this???
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first, why?

there is no options out there for your motor, your only option is to send your cam somewhere and have it custom ground. your engine is already a "roller" motor so you already have roller lifters so yeah. next you will have to get a tuner so you can re-flash your PCM and then it still may not run right.

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Do some research... You wont be able to run a "Big Cam" and keep it street able. I can see you having vacuum issues (meaning your brakes will suffer), you will have drive ability issues, you'll have to change your torque converter, and on top of all that its going to have to be custom tuned/dyno tuned...

Plus a "big cam" in a 3.0 v6?
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Do some research... You wont be able to run a "Big Cam" and keep it street able. I can see you having vacuum issues (meaning your brakes will suffer), you will have drive ability issues, you'll have to change your torque converter, and on top of all that its going to have to be custom tuned/dyno tuned...

Plus a "big cam" in a 3.0 v6?
Mine has no torque converter because it's a 5 speed manual tranny. Plus I was wanting to know what I can do performance wise to my engine. A wild cam would be nice but is not possible. but thanks man. Plus I did do some research and that's why I came on here because I got confused due to multiple grind choices plus a few other options that are listed in these companies.

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first, why?

there is no options out there for your motor, your only option is to send your cam somewhere and have it custom ground. your engine is already a "roller" motor so you already have roller lifters so yeah. next you will have to get a tuner so you can re-flash your PCM and then it still may not run right.

good luck
Thanks man. To answer your question my truck virtually has no rev limit. My tach goes to 7,000 rpms and I don't start to loose power until 6,200 rpms. As to why I would like to be able to run higher rpms and a bit more performance. what grind would you recomend? and whom?
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7000 RPM's?? My 2000 3.0L was limited to 5600 RPMs. Even then, it started to lose power after 5000, running such high RPM's in a stock non-forged 3.0L is a grenade waiting to go off IMO. If I were you, i'd get a set of the roller rockers from underdog performance, an xcal tuner, maybe change up your exhaust, and be done with it. But hey if you end up doing it, post the results!
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Thanks man. To answer your question my truck virtually has no rev limit. My tach goes to 7,000 rpms and I don't start to loose power until 6,200 rpms. As to why I would like to be able to run higher rpms and a bit more performance. what grind would you recomend? and whom?
lol dang man, thats too much rpms. I have an 04 like yourself, and ive had my tuner set at 6K before, and it was a waste to run it that high. I havent had it that high in almost 2 years. I set it back down to stock, and I rarely hit that limiter. I find it to be slower once you get past a certian point. I usually like to shift around 5000k when im on it hard, usually not much more than that.
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Thanks....

Thanks casper for the links man I appreciate it. That is how high of rpms my truck can run, but I try to keep it at a maximum of 5,200. That was an exp when I first got it just to see how high they were tuned at the factory. most factory engines can't even go to 4,500 usually they tune them lower for fuel eco purposes (or at least I think don't know for sure) they're sneaky at times.
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lol dang man, thats too much rpms. I have an 04 like yourself, and ive had my tuner set at 6K before, and it was a waste to run it that high. I havent had it that high in almost 2 years. I set it back down to stock, and I rarely hit that limiter. I find it to be slower once you get past a certian point. I usually like to shift around 5000k when im on it hard, usually not much more than that.
Same here. Only mine is factory set which is strange. They normally don't set them that high. I got pretty much the same as you only mine is black.
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Thanks my friends...

Ok I am going to check out underdog performance and see about getting me a factory cam and have it reground to street specs. I wish to say thanks for all of your guys info and advice which was definately needed. After looking at comp, Lunati, edlebrock, isky, and crane cams and seeing all of the factors involved it can get your brain rattled to say the least. between carbed or fuel injected, towing etc. it seems every cam company has a completely different solution and they fight each other like cats and dogs when it comes to analysis, and there I am scratching my head and cussing holding an empty bag. Shame on them.
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Doug Stattard(spelling might be wrong) from Bamachips runs/or used to run a built 3.0L ranger....


What happend to your twin turbo, small block idea?
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Everytime you rev that engine past 5,500 RPM's you remove a slight bit of tempre from the valve springs. You MAY be able to rev at 6,200 (factory rev limiter is 5,800 max), but you won;t be able to for long. You will not notice it, either, it will creep up on you and one day you will be struggling to pass a car on the freeway.
The factory valvesprings are weak and it takes some cash to get them up to par. The factory valves won't put up with it for long either.

Been there, done that, supercharged it (twice). Hope you have a fat wallet and unlimited checks...
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Everytime you rev that engine past 5,500 RPM's you remove a slight bit of tempre from the valve springs. You MAY be able to rev at 6,200 (factory rev limiter is 5,800 max), but you won;t be able to for long. You will not notice it, either, it will creep up on you and one day you will be struggling to pass a car on the freeway.
The factory valvesprings are weak and it takes some cash to get them up to par. The factory valves won't put up with it for long either.

Been there, done that, supercharged it (twice). Hope you have a fat wallet and unlimited checks...
Yes I know. I've only had it that high twice during the whole time i've owned the truck. I prefer to stay off the interstate, and stay in the lower rpm section because of the 4.10 ratios and because of that I get better fuel eco. I know because I have been there and done that too on my first ranger.

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Doug Stattard(spelling might be wrong) from Bamachips runs/or used to run a built 3.0L ranger....


What happend to your twin turbo, small block idea?
Too much money involved, too many negative comments about my idea and bloggers stirring the pot. Plus I am looking into something else which I aint going to say what it is. Rather than being enthused about my idea that I had they'd rather call me a total idiot than offer Ideas or any advice. the total price after all the adding is complete, $45,279.61. for that kind of money I can buy 2 new rangers, and 1 used one. See what I mean? Thanks for the link though, he still has it. Right now he's working on something else. I think he said something about putting a big block in another one. A friend of mine said he had seen a ranger jacked up to the max with a blower coming out of the hood when he went to the Daytona 500. He said he didn't take any pictures while he was down there which sux. Don't hold me to that I aint on here much and I could've misread something. right now I'm looking at www.factory5racing.com for a replica car kit.
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so much for that plan. I aint about to pay damn near a $1,000 bucks to have that done. hell no. That was just for the parts too by the way. The over all total for this $1,800 bucks. with the new camshaft installed. Good thing I ran it by you guys first. Hell I can get a 5.0 crate from Oreily's for less than that easily.
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You can get a complete crate engine, ready to run 5.0L for under $1800 easily?? hmm...where?
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The engine will not hold up to extreme over laps. Expect to get valve float long before you hit 7000. From what I read, the bottom end will drop out by the time you hit 300hp.
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You can get a complete crate engine, ready to run 5.0L for under $1800 easily?? hmm...where?
"O" reily's auto parts quoted me $1,300 plus shipping, carb and all. They said it's a 1970's motor. The carb is O.E.M. and it's a pretty much stock 5.0. The gave me a quote of around 225 HP stock and about 305 Ft. LBS of torque. Just go into your nearest "O" reily's auto parts store and ask for a quote on a 302 Long block. The Axles I know can handle the power output. It's pretty much the same axles and housing they used on the mustangs (The cheap ones if you're asking). The trans I can get out of a salvage yard from an explorer. It will take some time to do the swap, but instead of a standard 4 barrel carb I eintend to use a 300 cfm carb instead.

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The engine will not hold up to extreme over laps. Expect to get valve float long before you hit 7000. From what I read, the bottom end will drop out by the time you hit 300hp.
I know. that was just the top end package. They said at comp cams that I'd have to have extreme tolerances on the internals period. They said pretty much I'd have to rebuild the entire engine from the ground up and could run up to $30,000+ . which is why I decided to go ahead and do just a standard 5.0 swap instead. In other words I aint about to pull out my engine just for an expensive rebuild of what I have. That's the company that finally gave me a strait up ,no B.S. answer. Everyone else just kept beating around the bush just to make some money. A bone stock 5.0 (225 Hp, 305 Ft. Lbs torque) with a racing weight tilt One piece front end, and a racing weight bed would be about all I need. The engine aint hard to find at all. You can get that at just about anywhere, and they're easy to get parts for.
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By the way, if anybody is curious, Morana performance makes good 3.0 performance parts. The have ported and polished heads, stroker kits, cams, upper and lower intakes ect.
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http://www.moranav6racing.com/catego...?CategoryID=36
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By the way, if anybody is curious, Morana performance makes good 3.0 performance parts. The have ported and polished heads, stroker kits, cams, upper and lower intakes ect.
Here is a link:
http://www.moranav6racing.com/catego...?CategoryID=36
Thanks man. I appreciate the link which I have in my favorites list. The only thing that I have a problem with is Morana moved to canada and wants canadian funds only.
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