Injectors not firing
Injectors not firing
I have a 3.0 ranger that has been swapped and I've run into a problem. Well I've tested my injectors and they work but they don't on the truck wiring, I'm getting 12 volts on a red wire, I assume the other ones are for ground on the pcm, if I'm correct, can someone tell me how I can fix this.
Your post leaves a lot to the imagination, I assume you replaced your at one time running 3.0 for another 3.0 of the same year or close to it engine.
When doing this did you swap over your known good engine parts, accessories, etc from the old engine to the new to you engine?
Did you double check all your electrical connections to make sure they are all plugged in properly? Did you look for crushed or pinched harness wires?
When you claim the injectors are not functioning, did you use a noid light to check for injector reference pulse?
Did you confirm the fuel rail has pressure on it while cranking?
Did you confirm you have spark ?
Did you check all the ground wires to make sure they are installed and grounded properly?
Did you scan the computer for codes?
Give us more information and perhaps we have a chance to help.
When doing this did you swap over your known good engine parts, accessories, etc from the old engine to the new to you engine?
Did you double check all your electrical connections to make sure they are all plugged in properly? Did you look for crushed or pinched harness wires?
When you claim the injectors are not functioning, did you use a noid light to check for injector reference pulse?
Did you confirm the fuel rail has pressure on it while cranking?
Did you confirm you have spark ?
Did you check all the ground wires to make sure they are installed and grounded properly?
Did you scan the computer for codes?
Give us more information and perhaps we have a chance to help.
Is CKP(crank position) sensor plugged in?
Computer starts spark and fuel injectors when it sees that crank is turning, via pulses from CKP sensor.
No CKP pulses = no spark and no fuel injectors
And on 3.0l, no CPS(cam position sensor) pulses = spark, but no fuel injectors
1999 3.0l Ranger also had PATS(passive anti-theft system)
PATS disables fuel injectors if correct Ford PATS Key is not used or is unable to be read by PATS module.
PATS keys have a unique ID number inside, it is read by the PATS system when key is turned on, that unique number is compared to a 4 number list added at the factory, if match is found fuel injectors are enabled, if no number or no match then fuel injectors are disabled.
PATS wouldn't be effected by engine swap, but would be if computer was swapped.
1999 PATS used a PATS module(above glove box) and it was "married" to the PCM(computer) at the factory, so they are a matched set and have to be swapped together or a Ford Dealer can "remarry" units if only one needs to be changed.
Most mobile locksmiths can make and add PATS keys to the PATS system, but can't "remarry" PATS Module and PCM.
Computer starts spark and fuel injectors when it sees that crank is turning, via pulses from CKP sensor.
No CKP pulses = no spark and no fuel injectors
And on 3.0l, no CPS(cam position sensor) pulses = spark, but no fuel injectors
1999 3.0l Ranger also had PATS(passive anti-theft system)
PATS disables fuel injectors if correct Ford PATS Key is not used or is unable to be read by PATS module.
PATS keys have a unique ID number inside, it is read by the PATS system when key is turned on, that unique number is compared to a 4 number list added at the factory, if match is found fuel injectors are enabled, if no number or no match then fuel injectors are disabled.
PATS wouldn't be effected by engine swap, but would be if computer was swapped.
1999 PATS used a PATS module(above glove box) and it was "married" to the PCM(computer) at the factory, so they are a matched set and have to be swapped together or a Ford Dealer can "remarry" units if only one needs to be changed.
Most mobile locksmiths can make and add PATS keys to the PATS system, but can't "remarry" PATS Module and PCM.
Is CKP(crank position) sensor plugged in?
Computer starts spark and fuel injectors when it sees that crank is turning, via pulses from CKP sensor.
No CKP pulses = no spark and no fuel injectors
And on 3.0l, no CPS(cam position sensor) pulses = spark, but no fuel injectors
1999 3.0l Ranger also had PATS(passive anti-theft system)
PATS disables fuel injectors if correct Ford PATS Key is not used or is unable to be read by PATS module.
PATS keys have a unique ID number inside, it is read by the PATS system when key is turned on, that unique number is compared to a 4 number list added at the factory, if match is found fuel injectors are enabled, if no number or no match then fuel injectors are disabled.
PATS wouldn't be effected by engine swap, but would be if computer was swapped.
1999 PATS used a PATS module(above glove box) and it was "married" to the PCM(computer) at the factory, so they are a matched set and have to be swapped together or a Ford Dealer can "remarry" units if only one needs to be changed.
Most mobile locksmiths can make and add PATS keys to the PATS system, but can't "remarry" PATS Module and PCM.
Computer starts spark and fuel injectors when it sees that crank is turning, via pulses from CKP sensor.
No CKP pulses = no spark and no fuel injectors
And on 3.0l, no CPS(cam position sensor) pulses = spark, but no fuel injectors
1999 3.0l Ranger also had PATS(passive anti-theft system)
PATS disables fuel injectors if correct Ford PATS Key is not used or is unable to be read by PATS module.
PATS keys have a unique ID number inside, it is read by the PATS system when key is turned on, that unique number is compared to a 4 number list added at the factory, if match is found fuel injectors are enabled, if no number or no match then fuel injectors are disabled.
PATS wouldn't be effected by engine swap, but would be if computer was swapped.
1999 PATS used a PATS module(above glove box) and it was "married" to the PCM(computer) at the factory, so they are a matched set and have to be swapped together or a Ford Dealer can "remarry" units if only one needs to be changed.
Most mobile locksmiths can make and add PATS keys to the PATS system, but can't "remarry" PATS Module and PCM.
Last edited by Nikgt500; Oct 11, 2016 at 12:55 PM. Reason: Add info
Didn't follow what you said but................
1999, and up, Rangers with V6 engines had the PATS system, so you can't change computers from one vehicle to another without changing keys or having it programmed.
It wouldn't "one day" not start, or run rough, it wouldn't run at all, no fuel at all.
1999/2000 may or may not have starter motor interrupt, so starter motor wouldn't even work if it was a PATS issue.
2001 and up for sure had starter motor interrupt
1999, and up, Rangers with V6 engines had the PATS system, so you can't change computers from one vehicle to another without changing keys or having it programmed.
It wouldn't "one day" not start, or run rough, it wouldn't run at all, no fuel at all.
1999/2000 may or may not have starter motor interrupt, so starter motor wouldn't even work if it was a PATS issue.
2001 and up for sure had starter motor interrupt
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