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Old 11-11-2015
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Sticky thermostat

Couple months ago I changed my upper thermostat housing (cracked) and thermostat. Now, with winter coming and things getting cold, my thermostat sticks shut in the mornings. The temp gauge will top out and the "check gauge" light comes on. It's only on for a few seconds before the thermostat finally opens and the gauge comes down to normal temp. Anybody else have this issue? Don't really want to have to tear into that thing again, total PIA since I didn't pull the intake manifold.
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Do you think you have purged all the air out of the system?

T-stat location is prime spot for air to collect, which doesn't transfer heat as well to t-stat. so it delays it opening.

I would think after a few heat up cool downs all the air would be out.
Have you checked the rad in the morning(cold engine) to make sure it is full to the top.
If not then you do have air inside and that could indicate a leak somewhere, maybe even in lower t-stat housing, that would put air at the t-stat every time engine cooled off.

The self purging cooling system uses a rad cap with 2 valves, and the fact that coolant(any fluid) expands in volume when heated and then shrinks in volume when cooled.
The larger valve holds the rated pressure, say 14psi, smaller valve in center lets coolant flow back in from overflow tank as engine cools down.

So as engine warms up coolant expands and adds pressure to the system, this increases the boiling point of a fluid and why pressure is used, when pressure gets to 15psi the large valve on the rad cap is pushed open and coolant flows into overflow tank, then valve closes at 14psi.
After you shut down the engine the coolant cools down and volume shrinks until pressure at the cap is -1psi this causes smaller valve in rad cap to open and suck in coolant from overflow tank.
This is why rad should be full to the top, 0 air in there when you check it with engine cold.

If there is air in the system, say after a flush or refill, it will collect at the top of the radiator once t-stat opens, then as pressure builds to above 14psi the AIR will be let out of the big valve first and it will bubble up into the overflow tank and be gone.
As engine cools down coolant will be sucked back in not the air, so system is self purging, IF(big if) there are no leaks.
If there is a leak then as engine cools and coolant shrinks AIR can be pulled into system from that leak point, it is easier to pull that air in than coolant from the long overflow hose and tank.

Or yes you could have a bad t-stat, it happens

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Think you hit the nail on the head. Thanks.
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Your welcome.

And just for future reference any thermostat you use needs to have a "jiggle valve" or you need to drill a hole in thermostat's plate.

A jiggle valve is a hole in the thermostat plate that has a loose fitting metal pin in it.
This hole allows air to escape when thermostat is closed so ensures thermostat will always be immersed in coolant.
If thermostat is mounted side ways then jiggle valve would be located at 12:00 position, if thermostat is lying flat then position doesn't matter.

The metal pin "jiggles" with coolant flow and that keeps the hole open and free of most debris; and it's where the technical term "jiggle valve" comes from, lol.

If no jiggle valve thermostat is available then drill an 1/8" hole in the plate, that will let out the air, and as long as coolant is changed when it should be hole should stay open.

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