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Old 10-22-2006
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Need some Speaker info, and opinions

well it is that time again, i have finally succesfully blown out my speakers and they buzz like crazy... i am planning on getting a new head unit most likely Alpine, again seeing how much i really love mine currently. so what i need from you gentlemen and ladies is some information on a cheaper set of speakers not so much real cheap but somthing that im going to get the most out of... i would also appreciate any input on running a small amp just to power the speakers... i want LOUD not so much rap loud but i want to hear every part of all my bluegrass and hard rock, and jambands and everything i need a good all around speaker(s) soooo, any input would be greatly appreciated... thanks


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Honestly, I've found that any generic paper-cone factory speaker has more bass than most aftermarket "polypropylene" speaker that you buy for under $70.

So if you want a little punch without an amp, find a set of factory 6x9 speakers from a toyota camry, dodge neon or pontiac sunfire. It'll be cheap, and even with just a baffle (and yes, no box), the open air design will offer a little more punch for a little less money.

Otherwise, I found any generic speaker between $40-$80 will sound the same. None of them have all that much more bass than the factory speakers, just MORE CLARITY from the 2 or 3 way design. To get some, just run down to your local wal-mart, or audio shop, listen to the ones that sound the best to you, then run a search online (or on eBay) to see if they're any cheaper.

If you have the time and money, going a little bigger might help. So if you blew out the rear speakers, try replacing them with 6x9's with enclosures. Amp those, and they should be plenty loud.

Which ones did you blow? And how much do you want to spend?

I think the best thing to do is replace the front speakers, with a good component system (from JL Audio, or equivalent), and amp those. A good front stage doesn't even need rear fill.
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I do agree with JL Audio TR series, thats what I'd do, but they can run a little more $ than most. But if you like Alpine, you might want to check out Alpine's Type-S speakers. They sound great, and not expensive.
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i had a set of pioneers that were 60 bucks a pop... i loved them in the begining but they had a little tweeter type deal that came out the center and it would rattle my doors and stuff... they were pretty nice i mean ill spend up to 80-100 bucks per pair.. i dont care and maybe a small amp... i should probably also look in to an amp... im willing to spend 500 bucks for speakers, HU, and possibly an amp... i think they were 6x9s but i dont remember i put them in 2 years ago... but what speakers would you think that would be loud and clear and last? i really do appreciate the help...
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The problem with speakers, is that what's "good" can vary from person to person.

So using what you said as a frame of reference, if you liked the way the pioneer's sounded, then checkout the newest $60 model (with the center tweeter thing), then get the next step up. They'll sound the way you like it, and be 'clear' sounding. If you're sure you want them for a long time, get the extended warranty through bestbuy. It'll cost whatever extra, but if the speakers fart out in a year, you can pretty much just go back and swap them out with the newest model on the shelf.

The only bit of info I'd share on those pioneers, is that they don't sound all that great on an amp. They're high efficiency speakers...so in a nutshell: they WILL sound ok powered by just your HU...they WON'T necessarily sound as good at higher power if you power them with an amp.

Personally, I'd go down to your audiophile shop or tweeter and pickup the JL audio speakers. They will sound loud, clear, and great on an amp.
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ive had countless varietys of speakers in my old truck (f150) before and for a direct swap in speakers the best sounding ones ive found were Diamond Audio 5x7s the base line of all their models. the model number for it is. Model # D371i

i think i paid about 90bux for a pair and just that pair powered by an alpine headunit was pretty dang loud, then i hooked up an amp to em and ran em at 75w's and they got real! crisp!.

then ive also ran 6.5" round speakers, they seem to have a cleaner vocal but less bass but i wasnt worried about bass since i had 4 12s in the back.

but my suggestion to you is spend the money on a quality set of speakers, so you dont blow out a set later on and have to buy a new pair.
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Old 10-23-2006
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but my suggestion to you is spend the money on a quality set of speakers, so you dont blow out a set later on and have to buy a new pair.
the worst thing to do is get a nice set of speakers run off a deck alone. underpowering speakers is the main death to speakers. only deck power would thus be worse for a set of great speakers. a set of speakers that has 50rms rating running of a deck that has 20rmsx4 power would last longer than same deck running 75-100rms set of speakers.
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Old 10-24-2006
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i use 5x7 alpine type-s speakers all the way around, with a new glidetouch alpine deck, CDA-9853, sounds great, in my opinion its best to keep the speakers and stereo the same brand, for the fact that most companies do tests on their own products when they first come out, so there meant to be set up that way. When i had my old clarion 6 1/2 and my oldschool alpine deck didn't sound as crisp and clear.
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Old 10-24-2006
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i use 5x7 alpine type-s speakers all the way around, with a new glidetouch alpine deck, CDA-9853, sounds great, in my opinion its best to keep the speakers and stereo the same brand, for the fact that most companies do tests on their own products when they first come out, so there meant to be set up that way. When i had my old clarion 6 1/2 and my oldschool alpine deck didn't sound as crisp and clear.
thanks for more ambiguous advice. most good manufacturers are CEA compliant and have great products no matter what price point you are at. PM me and i can give you better advice than all these misconceptions on here. you can PM bamaboy and a few others as well, but like i have said before i am not biased.
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thanks for more ambiguous advice. most good manufacturers are CEA compliant and have great products no matter what price point you are at. PM me and i can give you better advice than all these misconceptions on here. you can PM bamaboy and a few others as well, but like i have said before i am not biased.
hmm, thanks for being ambiguous about that, anyways you can either have a good system or a great system. Judging by all the installs i've done, if you have the right rms with a different brand its not as crisp as the right rms in the same brand deck.

Thats a little more straight forward for you quest i hope. You may not be bias but it sounds like you have no concession on other opinions.
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i have installed i dunno maybe a thousand systems in the last 10 years. probably more but i just wanted to be conservative. i just hate getting on here and ppl giving bad advice. what if he goes by your advive and figures he should get the Kraco stereo/speaker system from Wally world because you said same name packages are the best. i have seen it before. if you or anyone else have a question just PM me i will lead you in the right direction.
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the worst thing to do is get a nice set of speakers run off a deck alone. underpowering speakers is the main death to speakers. only deck power would thus be worse for a set of great speakers. a set of speakers that has 50rms rating running of a deck that has 20rmsx4 power would last longer than same deck running 75-100rms set of speakers.
BTW UNDERPOWERING KILLS SPEAKERS MORE LIKELY THAN OVERPOWERING THEM, THATS FACT
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i have installed i dunno maybe a thousand systems in the last 10 years. probably more but i just wanted to be conservative. i just hate getting on here and ppl giving bad advice. what if he goes by your advive and figures he should get the Kraco stereo/speaker system from Wally world because you said same name packages are the best. i have seen it before. if you or anyone else have a question just PM me i will lead you in the right direction.
thats the most modest post i've seen you do, yeah its kind of hard to pick a manufacterer without a known price range.
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I have 2 10in MTX 4500 series....i think 90 bucks a pop...they are perfect for country, rock , and rap. Also, just upgrading door speakers is a massive improvement.. i run a 1600W amp to them though to make sure adequate power is going to them and use my head unit to tweak depending on whats in the cd player
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