2009 Mazda B2300 LSD options.
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2009 Mazda B2300 LSD options.
I just got myself the Miata of pickups (Mazda b2300 2009 with manual trans.)
I live in a place full of hills with snow and ice and all that crap, so the first thing I would like to do to the truck is a good lsd.
What are the options?
What diff is on my truck?
I'm perfectly ok getting an axle assembly from the P'n'P if it's cheaper, I would simply need to know what vehicle I need to look for.
What kind of final drive is available for these things?
I have a grinder and a welder and a will to use them.
Cheers everyone and thanks in advance.
I live in a place full of hills with snow and ice and all that crap, so the first thing I would like to do to the truck is a good lsd.
What are the options?
What diff is on my truck?
I'm perfectly ok getting an axle assembly from the P'n'P if it's cheaper, I would simply need to know what vehicle I need to look for.
What kind of final drive is available for these things?
I have a grinder and a welder and a will to use them.
Cheers everyone and thanks in advance.
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Once you can identify your diff, parts can be sought with the info just on the ID tag bolted to the diff cover, or you can get a "Cliff's notes" version from the door panel.
This will help:
https://www.therangerstation.com/how...ag-door-codes/
Once you ID your diff, it's easy to search for lockers or LSDs all over.
If you're looking to swap out a diff from another vehicle, and it's because you're going to push more ponies out the back, look for a 95-01 Explorer. They have 31 spline axles...beefier in diameter than 28 splines 8.8. (insert Tim Allen grunts here)
Double check dimensions, torch/grind the coil mounts off and add your leaf mounts (with good measurements and welding, of course).
You may get lucky with disc brakes already mounted, too, but you may need an adjustable proportioning valve (about 40 bux for generic and 80 bux for Wilwood) to go with the discs. They will be more efficient at stopping than your stock drums, so less work is needed back there. There's where the PV comes in as the stock one is not adjustable, and I don't know about the ABS compensating.
No PV...possibly locking up rear every time you try to stop. 40-80 bux is a good headache-preventing measure.
Hope this helps!
***edit***
I found a 2002-2003 Ranger FX4 and FX4 Level II may have 31 spline axles and possibly a Torsen diff. I don't know if they will bolt-on no mods to a 2wd, but maybe something to look at.
This will help:
https://www.therangerstation.com/how...ag-door-codes/
Once you ID your diff, it's easy to search for lockers or LSDs all over.
If you're looking to swap out a diff from another vehicle, and it's because you're going to push more ponies out the back, look for a 95-01 Explorer. They have 31 spline axles...beefier in diameter than 28 splines 8.8. (insert Tim Allen grunts here)
Double check dimensions, torch/grind the coil mounts off and add your leaf mounts (with good measurements and welding, of course).
You may get lucky with disc brakes already mounted, too, but you may need an adjustable proportioning valve (about 40 bux for generic and 80 bux for Wilwood) to go with the discs. They will be more efficient at stopping than your stock drums, so less work is needed back there. There's where the PV comes in as the stock one is not adjustable, and I don't know about the ABS compensating.
No PV...possibly locking up rear every time you try to stop. 40-80 bux is a good headache-preventing measure.
Hope this helps!
***edit***
I found a 2002-2003 Ranger FX4 and FX4 Level II may have 31 spline axles and possibly a Torsen diff. I don't know if they will bolt-on no mods to a 2wd, but maybe something to look at.
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Thanks for the reply.
Yeah, it's a 7,5, I would rather get rid of this thing.
Oh I know, but I'm a cheap bastard.
And I just peaked in the diff yesterday, I would like something stronger.
I'm not really planning on doing anything performancewise, I just want a good lsd, I live in northern Canada and...you know... snow and stuff.
I'm ok with that, done it before, I just know nothing about American stuff (I'm an old Volvo and old kind of guy)
The stupid ABS is already deactivated, I don't like this stuff in the snow.
I would like, if possible, the simplest swap possible (swapping an axle) I have enough projects, this is just a daily driver.
So basically, what I would like to know, is what should I hunt for at the pick and Pull?
95-01 Explorer?
2002-2003 Ranger FX4?
Crown Vic?
Is the track width similar?
Did some Rangers came with factory lsd?
I'm ok with the 8.8 28 spline by the way, it's just a 4cyl, and I would prefer to keep drum brakes for the sake of simplicity.
Thanks for the reply.
Once you can identify your diff, parts can be sought with the info just on the ID tag bolted to the diff cover, or you can get a "Cliff's notes" version from the door panel.
This will help:
https://www.therangerstation.com/how...ag-door-codes/
This will help:
https://www.therangerstation.com/how...ag-door-codes/
And I just peaked in the diff yesterday, I would like something stronger.
You may get lucky with disc brakes already mounted, too, but you may need an adjustable proportioning valve (about 40 bux for generic and 80 bux for Wilwood) to go with the discs. They will be more efficient at stopping than your stock drums, so less work is needed back there. There's where the PV comes in as the stock one is not adjustable, and I don't know about the ABS compensating.
I would like, if possible, the simplest swap possible (swapping an axle) I have enough projects, this is just a daily driver.
So basically, what I would like to know, is what should I hunt for at the pick and Pull?
95-01 Explorer?
2002-2003 Ranger FX4?
Crown Vic?
Is the track width similar?
Did some Rangers came with factory lsd?
I'm ok with the 8.8 28 spline by the way, it's just a 4cyl, and I would prefer to keep drum brakes for the sake of simplicity.
Thanks for the reply.
1983 to 2012 Ford Ranger axles all have the same spring perch widths, 38.5" width, 7.5" or 8.8" doesn't matter
1994 to 2009 Mazda B-series as well
Look here for how to tell if its a L/S differential and the gearing: https://therangerstation.com/tech_li...le_codes.shtml
You will see what your gearing is as well, on your door sticker
If you match gearing speedometer won't need to be corrected
Explorer perches don't fit Rangers but can be modified, so not plug and play, it pretty much needs to be from a Ranger, or 1994 and up B-series, to be plug and play
Most 4x4 Rangers will have Limited Slip rear axles, but not 100%, which I find odd, lol.
And there were quite a few L/S ordered on 2WD Rangers so look at door sticker or axle tag on 2WDs as well
The 1983 to 1992 axles were an inch narrower on each side, but still work fine, 1993 to 2012 were same width as your 2009
1994 to 2009 Mazda B-series as well
Look here for how to tell if its a L/S differential and the gearing: https://therangerstation.com/tech_li...le_codes.shtml
You will see what your gearing is as well, on your door sticker
If you match gearing speedometer won't need to be corrected
Explorer perches don't fit Rangers but can be modified, so not plug and play, it pretty much needs to be from a Ranger, or 1994 and up B-series, to be plug and play
Most 4x4 Rangers will have Limited Slip rear axles, but not 100%, which I find odd, lol.
And there were quite a few L/S ordered on 2WD Rangers so look at door sticker or axle tag on 2WDs as well
The 1983 to 1992 axles were an inch narrower on each side, but still work fine, 1993 to 2012 were same width as your 2009
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For an 8.8 axle with a 3.73 ratio, look for an R6 code.
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1983 to 2012 Ford Ranger axles all have the same spring perch widths, 38.5" width, 7.5" or 8.8" doesn't matter
1994 to 2009 Mazda B-series as well
Look here for how to tell if its a L/S differential and the gearing: https://therangerstation.com/tech_li...le_codes.shtml
You will see what your gearing is as well, on your door sticker
If you match gearing speedometer won't need to be corrected
Explorer perches don't fit Rangers but can be modified, so not plug and play, it pretty much needs to be from a Ranger, or 1994 and up B-series, to be plug and play
Most 4x4 Rangers will have Limited Slip rear axles, but not 100%, which I find odd, lol.
And there were quite a few L/S ordered on 2WD Rangers so look at door sticker or axle tag on 2WDs as well
The 1983 to 1992 axles were an inch narrower on each side, but still work fine, 1993 to 2012 were same width as your 2009
1994 to 2009 Mazda B-series as well
Look here for how to tell if its a L/S differential and the gearing: https://therangerstation.com/tech_li...le_codes.shtml
You will see what your gearing is as well, on your door sticker
If you match gearing speedometer won't need to be corrected
Explorer perches don't fit Rangers but can be modified, so not plug and play, it pretty much needs to be from a Ranger, or 1994 and up B-series, to be plug and play
Most 4x4 Rangers will have Limited Slip rear axles, but not 100%, which I find odd, lol.
And there were quite a few L/S ordered on 2WD Rangers so look at door sticker or axle tag on 2WDs as well
The 1983 to 1992 axles were an inch narrower on each side, but still work fine, 1993 to 2012 were same width as your 2009
https://www.therangerstation.com/tec...8_8-axle.shtml
https://www.therangerstation.com/tec...lorer8_8.shtml
I've got everything I need to know for now.
Thanks!
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Hey, after you do your axle swap, could you post on how it went. Since I'm doing the same thing, I would love to hear about any troubles that you had-- or didn't have. If I get mine done before you, I'll do the same.
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