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3.0 manual tranny trouble

Hey, all. Here's the problem.

I literally have to force it in 1st and 2nd gear sometimes. No grinding, just have to push it really hard, and sometimes I can't get it, I'll have to move the shifter around in neutral a bit, and then it will go.

I know when I bought the truck a month ago, it had just had a new clutch and master cylinder installed. But it was engaging right off the floor, and now its engaging about 2/3's up.

The truck has 147k miles on it. When I first got it, first thing I did was change the oil and tranny fluid. When I pulled the tranny plug, there was a LOT of metal shavings stuck on the magnet part of the plug.

Whats the deal? Time for a new tranny? Just need the clutch rebled? This is supposed to be a daily driver... not up on jackstands the whole time being broken down. I need to get this fixed.

I found a tranny with 20k out of an 04 here for sale, but he's trying to get $500 for it. May go a little lower. Should I get it?
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Also, is there a how-to somewhere on bleeding the clutch?
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a-lot of metal shavings inside a manual tranny is bad news
how much shavings are we talking here
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I was going to say slave cylinder.......but since you already replaced it....LOL

Did the slave go on you, or did you just change it for the heck of it? Did you inspect the clutch plate and pressure plate when you were in there??
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sounds like the syncros are going out or the tranny has started to sms (self machining syndrome)....
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What is self machining syndrome?

Alot of metal.. meaning, the whole plug was covered with shavings, some pretty good sized, enough to feel gritty in my fingers.

It really does have a hard time going in first or second sometimes.. I was kinda thinking syncro's too.

The master has been changed, but not the slave. I bought it this way, the guys at the dealership said they put a new clutch in it and changed the master cylinder. Which the pedal feels good, so I believe that they did.
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Alright I found a tranny on Ebay for 300 shipped, so I think I'm probably going to get it.

It says it needs tail shaft housing... my stock will swap on just fine right??

And what all should I buy to replace with the tranny. Like seals, bearings, anything like that. Let me know asap, I'd like to get all this stuff ordered and the new tranny on before I don't have a tranny anymore!!
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i would be having a nice talk with the mechanic

any good mechanic with common sense knows, when ever you replace a clutch - you replace the slave cylinder as well.

as with a-lot of metal shavings on the drain plug - sounds like the original owner was power shifting a-lot.
he also never changed the transmission fluid

i change my tranny fluid every 40,000 kilometers
( don`t know what equals in miles though )

make sure you add some DURALUBE to the tranny fluid as well
i am using it in my tranny, and it shifts like butter
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Ok. Well, what all seals/bearings do you all recommend replacing when I do the tranny? I'll get a new slave cylinder also.
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input shaft bearing and seal
and also the tail shaft bearing and seal
and might as well install a new shifter ball as well
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you need to find out if the clutch that was installed had an adjustable or non adjustable pressure plate in it. you can see by looking through the inspection plate. i have installed quite a few clutches in rangers with adjustable pressure plates and not had a problem. i have installed two clutches with non adjustable pressure plates and had the sale difficulty shifting that you describe. my truck currently has a non adjustable pressure plate in it and after driving it for a period of time, it is very hard to shift, the clutch will be coming out as soon as funds approve.

second, was the master clyinder bench bled before it was installed? if not you need to remove it and bench bleed it with it pointed upward (when it is installed on the firewall it points downward making it almost impossible to bleed in vehicle) and re install it.
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the duralube site says its only for use in automatic trannys......can we use it or something since we use auto tranny fluid?
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