5r44e and 5r55e inchangeability
5r44e and 5r55e inchangeability
Hi all,
Long time lurker, first time poster. I'm hoping to tap into the collective knowledge here. Does anyone know if I can fit a 5r55e in place of a 5r44e behind my 2005 3.0 4x4? I ask because a 5r44e 4x4 is hard to come by where I am and while the two are very similar, there may be differences that I am overlooking. I know the bellhousings are different but those can be swapped. Which TCC should I use? Will the 3.0 flexplate match the 5r55e TCC? Will the wiring harness plug match? Any insight is appreciated.
Long time lurker, first time poster. I'm hoping to tap into the collective knowledge here. Does anyone know if I can fit a 5r55e in place of a 5r44e behind my 2005 3.0 4x4? I ask because a 5r44e 4x4 is hard to come by where I am and while the two are very similar, there may be differences that I am overlooking. I know the bellhousings are different but those can be swapped. Which TCC should I use? Will the 3.0 flexplate match the 5r55e TCC? Will the wiring harness plug match? Any insight is appreciated.
Welcome to the forum
2002-2011 5Rs have the correct sensors, earlier can not be used in 2002 and up vehicles
44E and 55E are the same size
The bellhousing is the front case for the main pump so while it can be swapped the whole trans should be disassembled to center the shaft on the new bell housing
But up to you
Use 3.0l torque converter
The 55E has bigger OD drum which won't matter either way unless you are rebuilding it
And you can't rebuild your 5R44E?
A used automatic is a roll of the dice, especially for DIY, as any warranty maybe denied unless a shop does the install
IF its your 1st automatic install, MAKE SURE you seat the torque converter inside the bellhousing all the way before bolting trans to engine or you WILL BREAK the pump
Video on pump and shaft alignment
2002-2011 5Rs have the correct sensors, earlier can not be used in 2002 and up vehicles
44E and 55E are the same size
The bellhousing is the front case for the main pump so while it can be swapped the whole trans should be disassembled to center the shaft on the new bell housing
But up to you
Use 3.0l torque converter
The 55E has bigger OD drum which won't matter either way unless you are rebuilding it
And you can't rebuild your 5R44E?
A used automatic is a roll of the dice, especially for DIY, as any warranty maybe denied unless a shop does the install
IF its your 1st automatic install, MAKE SURE you seat the torque converter inside the bellhousing all the way before bolting trans to engine or you WILL BREAK the pump
Video on pump and shaft alignment
Thank you, Ron. The current 5r44e is rebuildable but I can pick up a used 5r55e for about $150 if I pull it myself from the picknpull yard. I still may go the rebuild route but I'm just in the research phase of this and trying to think through all the issues. I thought the 5r55e might better as it's a bit more stout and since I've pulled a few transmissions I thought I'd go the the picknpull route. I appreciate your help here.
The 44 indicates it can handle 440ft/lb torque, 55 is 550ft/lb torque, but its basically just larger OD drum on the 55
One won't last longer than the other, that's not what those numbers mean
Its like the M5R1 manuals vs M5R1-HD, HD has an extra bolt hole in bell housing, same exact parts inside both, "But its Heavy Duty!", lol
Either is rated as 320ft/lb torque
And just FYI, the transmission's torque rating is also why automatic vehicles have a higher towing weight rating than manuals, no, it was never about clutches or driver's ability, lol, automatics are simply stronger than manuals built for same vehicles
One won't last longer than the other, that's not what those numbers mean
Its like the M5R1 manuals vs M5R1-HD, HD has an extra bolt hole in bell housing, same exact parts inside both, "But its Heavy Duty!", lol
Either is rated as 320ft/lb torque
And just FYI, the transmission's torque rating is also why automatic vehicles have a higher towing weight rating than manuals, no, it was never about clutches or driver's ability, lol, automatics are simply stronger than manuals built for same vehicles
Last edited by RonD; Mar 24, 2020 at 11:22 AM.
No worries, just remember any running issues won't be because of the 44E 55E differences, they both operate exactly the same way
Slow engagement or slipping gears are because its a "used' transmission, not because its a 55E
Slow engagement or slipping gears are because its a "used' transmission, not because its a 55E
Copy that. Thanks Ron. While I have you, I have a related question. Do you know what would cause a high-frequency RRRRR sound, almost like grinding but not as harsh, while coasting? The moment I go back on gas, the sound goes away. I am thinking something with the coast clutch and/or valve body. Same vehicle.
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