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another 4x problem

o.k., a while back I asked for help changing auto to manual hubs on a 95'. anyway I went a head and ordered the parts, went with the mile marker with a conversion kit, finally installed them today--weeeellllllllll, i started up had it in park twisted to 4hi and i could hear it click in the dash about 5 or 6 times then nothing- no light notta. any where I turn the ***- nothin. I checked all fuses they are o.k., the lights come on when I start the truck!? where do I start now, and what do you think would cause it? A little history, when I had the auto hubs and tried useing the 4x it would grind and if it did engage would pop out then lots more grinding in the hub area, I was pretty convinced it was the hubs!! what should I do????
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http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...d.php?t=123542


If it were me, I'd pull that shift motor off, turn the selector manually and drive it to see if the hubs are working FIRST. Then attack the shift motor if all works well with the shift motor removed.

For that matter, you could switch the 4X switch to see the shift motor move as soon as you pull it off (obviously leave it electrically connected). Not sure if you need to run a jumper from its case to chassis ground.... to do that test.
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thanks earl! I think I'll give it a try! thanks for the link!
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I dont see how changing from auto to manual hubs would effect your dash board lights from coming on and all that.
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check the module behind the jump seat, in that explorer link they tell you how to check it, its very simple, also my module checked fine, i took the actual push button switch apart and blew it out and its worked perfectly ever since, i got a 94 so its basically the same
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well, I think its just coincidental that I changed the hubs and now nothins working (I hope anyways!) I just took the shift motor off and hooked it up to voltage and it moves, switch the voltage and it moves back! i came in to get warmed up so started to do more research and cant find out if this means that the shift motor is good or not (I still have dial up, sloowww) , anyway should I tear into it or being that it turns back and forth is it good? also couldnt find where they talk about testing the module, i'll keep looking but if someone stumbles on it could you let me know? thanks
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do you have an extended cab? if you do its directly behind the drivers side back jump seat on the floor, you have to take both harnesses off on the side of the module that is closest to the drivers seat <right side> then turn the key on and push the white test button on top of the module, if the light next to it blinks 4 or 5 times then its fine, if it stays on or lights up more or less then there is a problem. are you sure the light by your switch just isnt burned out/
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no, standard cab. yea, the lights come on when I do my initial startup. is it still behind the drivers seat?
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that write up is sweet but im always afraid of doing elctrical stuff
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no, standard cab. yea, the lights come on when I do my initial startup. is it still behind the drivers seat?
then im not sure about that, its probably somewhere in the back or under the hood, its like a 6x6 box with two big harness going in one side and i think one or two small ones on other side, its got one small white button on the top and a red light next to it.
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check this pic out. http://www.explorerforum.com/photopo...hatch_info.JPG

it should look like that, its gonna be inside probably, maybe under the seats
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Putting direct power to the motor simply proves the shift motor works. It will not verify that the motor is being driven to the proper position selected with the dash switch.

You will need to check the feedback sensor portion of the shift motor described in the link I previously provided, photos 5 through 8.
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well, i ve pulled the shift motor removed the torx screws(pain) replaced the plastic bushing (didnt look to bad) but did it anyway, I didnt go any farther than that, so I replaced the motor turned it on and both 4h and 4l lights come on and stay on! so I put it in N and turn the switch to 4 l and back to 2w, well the the 4l light goes out but not the 4h. so i shut it off remove the motor and the t-case is still in 2w. ???????? so anyway I tear the whole motor down, looks pretty good still, clean it up, reinstall and nothin! I tried unhooking the batt. for 20min., the only thing I cant do is diss. the sealed unit that the torx screws hold to? it is diff. than the pics on the link, it is a sealed unit like in the end of that link. now I need help! I still cant find the control module! can you believe that!
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