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Delayed Engagement Fix (Help ME)

My transmission, 4R44E, is taking a really long time to go into gear. I have read that a shift kit will fix this, but I also saw that I should replace the EPC (pressure control solenoid) while im at it because it is a wear and tear part. I read that there are two types for the same transmission depending on the number. I looked it up and it said that the red band one is for 97 and newer vehicles. Can anyone confirm or deny this? I want to get this all fixed as soon as possible.

Also does anyone recommend a certain shift kit? I have read that TransGo makes a kit. Are there others?
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Check out www.bulkpart.com

The epc is 97 and newer. I have never seen it listed any other way so i can only assume its correct. Also Superior makes a kit.


This thread covers both kits plus the ford TSB kits.
http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...d.php?t=140987

As far as the delay. From what i have read its a ford tolerance issue with valve body parts. I really do not know which parts. but my "rebuild with shift kit" off ebay does it really bad. I need to do the same things you are.
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i need to have some tranny work done......shift kit is high on my list....
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Thanks for the rebuild link Blhde. I understand everything a little better now.

Does anyone know a good place to get the TransGo kit? I'm pretty sure I'm going with that one.
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1-2 flair on a 5r44e and 5r55e is probley due to either a bad seporator plate problem (ie gasket) or a servo seal or spring problem.

ford has numerous TSB's out for this and offers many up-dated parts to fix these problems.
i am having minor flair problems, but that came after i installed a firmer spring in the forward servo when i had my trans apart.
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1-2 flair on a 5r44e and 5r55e is probley due to either a bad seporator plate problem (ie gasket) or a servo seal or spring problem.

ford has numerous TSB's out for this and offers many up-dated parts to fix these problems.
i am having minor flair problems, but that came after i installed a firmer spring in the forward servo when i had my trans apart.
If you read through the first couple pages of that link that Blhde posted it will tell you that the ford fix is not necessarily as affective as the others. They all sort of fix the problem in slightly different ways.
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I paid about 35 shipped for my first trans go kit from txchange. Bulkpart seems to have good prices too.


http://www.bulkpart.com/Merchant2/me...de=4R44Evbkits


http://www.txchange.com/sk.htm
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Well i put the trans go in as well as a new epc and it did nothing to fix the problem. It shifts amazing once its in gear, but man is it difficult to get into gear.

It is now at for and they told me there is no line pressure and it is costing over $500 just to take the transmission apart to see what the problem is.
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That leaves the server seal or spring issue like 04 EDGE said.

How long is they delay?
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That leaves the server seal or spring issue like 04 EDGE said.

How long is they delay?
The delay can be over 30 seconds. The only way I can get it in gear is dropping it in 2nd and reving it until it gets enough pressure to move.
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for about 60 bucks more than the cost of that tear down, your problem can be eliminated. https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...ad.php?t=51118
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for about 60 bucks more than the cost of that tear down, your problem can be eliminated. https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...ad.php?t=51118

i concur! i love my kit
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Well I wish I had seen that before.
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sounds like the valve body separator plate gasket.

ford makes a new "re-usable" gasket/plate assy to cure this problem.
the bad thing is you have to remove the valve body and totally disassemble it to clean any of the old gasket out of it.
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sounds like the valve body separator plate gasket.

ford makes a new "re-usable" gasket/plate assy to cure this problem.
the bad thing is you have to remove the valve body and totally disassemble it to clean any of the old gasket out of it.
When I took the valvebody out it already had the separator plate with the bonded gaskets because the valvebody has been replaced already. But I did notice that it was not the updated separator plate because there was still a hole for the rivet that comes with the TransGo kit.
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