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I was already to sas my truck (a 99 ranger with the 5R55E) with a dana 44 and 8.8" rear. The only problem I forsee is the front ABS. VT state law says that it HAS to work in order to pass inspection. Anyone know away to delete the front ABS or the ABS all together and not throw a code or have the light on? I shall be forever in your dept.
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Pull the light bulb... I would assume you would have to go back to an older gen's setup without ABS (not sure of the year) to get it without abs...
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Pull the light bulb... I would assume you would have to go back to an older gen's setup without ABS (not sure of the year) to get it without abs...
They scan the PCM though.
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um, are you sure you had FRONT abs on your 99 ranger?


Didnt think they came as an option til 01
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um, are you sure you had FRONT abs on your 99 ranger?


Didnt think they came as an option til 01
uhh i'm 99% sure as there is an abs sensor on the front unit bearings.
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Think front ABS was an option for 98-00 trucks......4wheel ABS standard in '01.

That blows about the state requiring that it is to work correctly. Would they even be okay with a SAS'd truck in the first place??
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That is no fun. That could be a problem if it was enacted here. I'd have to rig up something to fool it. I had an idea for supplying all 3 signals from one sensor but I haven't tried it. It would make the ABS think all the wheels were always spinning at the same speed. Just have to set it up so the sensor continuity checks are also unimpeded.
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Think front ABS was an option for 98-00 trucks......4wheel ABS standard in '01.

That blows about the state requiring that it is to work correctly. Would they even be okay with a SAS'd truck in the first place??


well, couldnt he swap to a RABS setup?
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Hinesburg, I was just there dropping off a puppy this past Sat.

I think your best bet would be to fool the ABS so that you don't throw the code. They'd get you when they went to do the OBDII emissions I figure, otherwise just pull the bulb.

Or you could find a "good" shop that will let you slide.....

On a side note, you coming to the Vermonster in May? There is a thread on here, but here is the link to the site...

ww.vermosnter4x4.com
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well, couldnt he swap to a RABS setup?
Thats kinda what I was hoping, It might just be too much work to deal with though.

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Hinesburg, I was just there dropping off a puppy this past Sat.

I think your best bet would be to fool the ABS so that you don't throw the code. They'd get you when they went to do the OBDII emissions I figure, otherwise just pull the bulb.

Or you could find a "good" shop that will let you slide.....

On a side note, you coming to the Vermonster in May? There is a thread on here, but here is the link to the site...

ww.vermosnter4x4.com
Thats bradford right? Yeah I'd like to be there with my 78. I just need to figure out how to get it down there.
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Does it even show on the PCM? ABS codes? I was thinking it took a special reader. Which maybe VT has.

I have heard someone makes a tone ring for maybe the D44? I cant remember where I read this. But then you could rig it up, not sure how well it would work though.
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It is a special reader. It's not a regular OBDII diagnostic. If you can find someone in the know, they can tell you if they really "tap into it" or just look for a trouble light. Could be easier to make it slide than you think.
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It is a special reader. It's not a regular OBDII diagnostic. If you can find someone in the know, they can tell you if they really "tap into it" or just look for a trouble light. Could be easier to make it slide than you think.

Does it use the OBDII plug? Of the four times I've been there while they inpsected, they never did anything but get the emisions info. Only reason they even hook it up is for the "greenies" I beleive.....
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Yes, it does. But it uses a different ISO-9141 (if I'm recalling correctly) sub-network on a different wire on that connector. Ford uses that to connect their sub-modules.

Professional readers like the SnapOn Modis models (the later ones anyway) can query these sub-modules.
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Does it even show on the PCM? ABS codes? I was thinking it took a special reader. Which maybe VT has.

I have heard someone makes a tone ring for maybe the D44? I cant remember where I read this. But then you could rig it up, not sure how well it would work though.
No idea as I wasn't there when they inspected it. My 94 is simple to slide past, this thing, not so much. It already has the ABS light on, I think the rear sensor is gone.

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Would they even be okay with a SAS'd truck in the first place??
I guess, never really asked. My 94 passes no problem.



BTW Buckgnarly, there are 3 or 4 of us going to Bradford seeings as Essex isn't happening.

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No idea as I wasn't there when they inspected it. My 94 is simple to slide past, this thing, not so much. It already has the ABS light on, I think the rear sensor is gone.


I guess, never really asked. My 94 passes no problem.



BTW Buckgnarly, there are 3 or 4 of us going to Bradford seeings as Essex isn't happening.
Post up the pics of the 78. I love that truck.
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A not so hardcore video we made one day when we were bored.

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fusea...deoid=30544606
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A not so hardcore video we made one day when we were bored.

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fusea...deoid=30544606
Sounds good, That have the 460 in it? or is it a 351?
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460, bored, polished, ported and cammed. Is supposed to be 500HP but Id guess a strong 425.
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