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to weld or not to weld

how bad of an idea is it to weld my open differantials together for posi?
 
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I had it done to my zuki. You dont want it on a vehicle that will drive on the road. It would be like a full locker that you cant turn off.
 
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and that means lots of fun right?
 
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alright, i like the sounds of that. how long do you think it'll survive though.

i plan on selling the truck in the spring or summer, you think it will last that long and some?
 
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Originally Posted by ranger_banger
alright, i like the sounds of that. how long do you think it'll survive though.

i plan on selling the truck in the spring or summer, you think it will last that long and some?
If you're selling the truck do not weld the diff.. You will probably grenade it driving on the streets so much, and will be impossible to sell with the rear end welded.
 
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I wouldnt do it.
 
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I picked up a mini spool for under 100bux, it's worth it. It's the same thing except it replaces the spider gears...fully reversable.
 
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if you weld it ill drive to bum **** iowa to slap you.
 
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Had a friend that did that to his Jeep. It lasted about a week before it blew apart. He winded up having to replace the rear end...
 
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I'm not a very big fan of welded differentials in the first place, but for a vehicle that's street-driven... no way! First of all, you've got to REALLY weld that sucker together... If you've got less than about 200 amps, don't even think about it. Secondly, the ranger carrier is NOT that strong that it can take that kind of abuse regularly from driving on the street. Don't do it... you'll be sorry you did.
 
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yea i wouldn't do it unless it was an offroad only or very often offroad rig, prefereably still trailerd on pavement and only driven on dirt



we should let someone on the site do it to prove a point
 
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The most I drove my zuki on the road was on my street and it really sucked of course i didt have shocks or anything lol
 
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shocks are over rateddddd lol


i know someone here whos got an unlimited with a welded rear, i'll let yall know when it blows up
 
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My friend has a old chevy we welded together. I wouldn't turn worth a poo. Lasted a long time of abuse.

I wouldn't recomend it on a normal road vehicle
 
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what are you going to be doing that you need to do that any ways ?
 
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welded = fun
fun = not for a long time


damns. oh well, thanks for the input guys. guess i wont be doing it
 
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why would welded=fun???
 
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welded = fun = entertaining for everybody else to see pics of the eventual carnage
 
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o0, in that case

hell yea do it! haha
 
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If you have the 7.5 put in a powertrax lockright. Or an 8.8 put in the Powertrax no-slip. They are both streetable but the no slip is more streetable but not made for the 7.5. Both are simple to install and remove--you don't have to adjust the pinion or set it up. Just a bolt in you can do yourself in a couple of hours. So easy to switch back when you sell, or sell with it. Oh, and they are both cheap.

Don't weld if if you are going to sell it! It's irreversible and won't work at all on the street, so that cuts your customer base by about 99%.

Good luck.
 
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I have a 98 2wd mazda and I welded mine bout 2 months ago. I do quite a bit off roading but I do still do quite a bit of road driving as well. We've done it to a couple streetable trucks around here and stay on top of things with em. I know its not very smart to do but it makes a good time. We havent had one go out yet but we always take apart and rebuild them and usually weld a new carrier again after about 3-4 months because we have ready access to rear end parts pretty easily. I only did it for the fun, and actually plan to replace the 7.5 with an 8.8 here the next couple of months. Then I will just spool it.

But I will tell you, my clutch was already going out and after welding it, it really started wearing the thing out.

So I would highly think about it before doing it. Like I said only reason I did it is because I have easy access to the parts. and I actually carry around a new chunk in my truck just incase cuz it only takes me 30 min to swap it out on the side of the road by myself. sooo there ya go...my 2 cents
 
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its not like a posi, not even close. it wont necessarily grenade if you do it right but youll eat tires and it wont very fun to drive in the street. I assume you mean welding the rear.

it could be "fun". get a spare carrier and do it for a week, take it out in the rain and mud, it would be fun but dont leave it!
 
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It's the poor man's traction solution. All the warnings here are good ones, but if you want to take the risks and deal with possible consequences it's do-able.

Get someone to do it right. That'll minimize the possibility of certain "grenading" events, lol.

But overall, I'm against it for anything regularly street driven. I think you'll come to hate it if you do a lot of manuevering with it.
 
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I think you'll come to hate it if you do a lot of manuevering with it.
NO DOUBT about this.
 


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