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Mine has the separate brake/turn/reverse. i have the reverse lights as turn sigs. also.
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I am hoping my ebay 63 LED ambers arrive today. They shipped via USPS from City of Industry, CA (near LA...about 200 miles from me) on Friday afternoon. If you want to wait a day to order them I can probably get some videos up on youtube tonight after work comparing the ebay 63 leds to the v-leds 27 leds and regular incandescent 3157's.

I won't be home from work til around midnight pacific tonight...it's actually past my bedtime but all this talk about LEDs is keeping me awake, lol.
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That's gotta be interesting having the reverse flash with the turn signal. A different version of the "blinker mod"?

I also have turn signal/brake/reverse in the rear (amber/red/white). I think it's my favorite ranger taillight setup.
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I am hoping my ebay 63 LED ambers arrive today. They shipped via USPS from City of Industry, CA (near LA...about 200 miles from me) on Friday afternoon. If you want to wait a day to order them I can probably get some videos up on youtube tonight after work comparing the ebay 63 leds to the v-leds 27 leds and regular incandescent 3157's.

I won't be home from work til around midnight pacific tonight...it's actually past my bedtime but all this talk about LEDs is keeping me awake, lol.
That would be really cool. Let me know when you get it all installed. And, I know what you mean, I should be doing work, but this LED stuff is more important..lol
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That's gotta be interesting having the reverse flash with the turn signal. A different version of the "blinker mod"?

I also have turn signal/brake/reverse in the rear (amber/red/white). I think it's my favorite ranger taillight setup.
Yea..something a little different.. I also have the cargo lights with amber bulbs that flash with the signals as well..
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Here's a quick video I made comparing the ebay 63 led lights to the standard incandescent lights in my front turn signals:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFqChunh3RQ

The ebay LEDs are a noticeably more orange shade of amber than the v-leds 27 LED units and the standard turn signals. The 63 LEDs seem to put out more light than the 27 LED v-leds lamps. The 63 LEDs don't seem to put out quite as much light as the incandescents when the incandescents are at peak brightness, but I think the full on/full off of the LED is a better attention getter than the fade in/fade out of the incandescents. I just put them in tonight so I won't be able to do any daylight testing for a while (maybe tomorrow if I have time before work).

For now I'm going to order at least one more pair of the 63 led amber ebay lights so i can have 4 matching lamps in the front signals, and I guess a pair of reds to see how they work for taillights.
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[B][COLOR="Yellow"]Looks good Jeff. Thought for a minute there that the sequence was off. I was actually expecting alot brighter flash with the LEF's. You think that the red will shine through enough through the red lence for the rears? Also,all you did was change the flasher to get them to work?
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I just ordered the 63 LED red taillights and the 63 LED white back up lights. Should be here by friday or maybe saturday. I'm going to pick up the electronic flasher today.
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Here's a quick video I made comparing the ebay 63 led lights to the standard incandescent lights in my front turn signals:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFqChunh3RQ

The ebay LEDs are a noticeably more orange shade of amber than the v-leds 27 LED units and the standard turn signals. The 63 LEDs seem to put out more light than the 27 LED v-leds lamps. The 63 LEDs don't seem to put out quite as much light as the incandescents when the incandescents are at peak brightness, but I think the full on/full off of the LED is a better attention getter than the fade in/fade out of the incandescents. I just put them in tonight so I won't be able to do any daylight testing for a while (maybe tomorrow if I have time before work).

For now I'm going to order at least one more pair of the 63 led amber ebay lights so i can have 4 matching lamps in the front signals, and I guess a pair of reds to see how they work for taillights.
That's interesting you mention that the 63-leds don't put out as much light as the regular filament bulbs, superbrightleds.com advertises a single 3-watt led that puts out more light than incandescents [disperses at a 130 degree angle], I think I'm gonna snag a set of those, but am waiting cuz of the 25 buck a piece price tag
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Bought the EP27 flasher today. Was a bi*** to find where it went without pictures. Once I finally found the location it was easy to replace. Now I'm just waiting on my lights to get here.

Lone Ranger, what lights are you planning on getting? The superbrightleds.com ones or the 63 LED ones from Ebay?
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I've the the 63 white they are pretty good for the price would buy them again as long as they last a while. Some bulbs off ebay burn out fairly fast IMO.
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HMM...i might need to try this out.
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[B][COLOR="Yellow"]Looks good Jeff. Thought for a minute there that the sequence was off. I was actually expecting alot brighter flash with the LEF's. You think that the red will shine through enough through the red lence for the rears? Also,all you did was change the flasher to get them to work?
I was hoping the 63 LEDs would be brighter too but they seem alright, especially for the money.

Yeah all I did was change the stock flasher to an electronic flasher...no wiring necessary.

I ordered a pair of the red 63 LEDs and I'll do a side by side comparison with LED on one side and incandescent on the other like I did for the turn signals as soon as I get them (hopefully on the 3rd).
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Bought the EP27 flasher today. Was a bi*** to find where it went without pictures. Once I finally found the location it was easy to replace. Now I'm just waiting on my lights to get here.

Lone Ranger, what lights are you planning on getting? The superbrightleds.com ones or the 63 LED ones from Ebay?
I wasn't sure which box under the dashboard was my flasher at first. To make sure I was taking the right one out I turned on the hazard lights, then listened and felt the box. You can actually feel something when it makes the "click" noise. That's a good way to confirm that unknown part is the flasher, and may help with finding it for those with good close range directional hearing.
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That's interesting you mention that the 63-leds don't put out as much light as the regular filament bulbs, superbrightleds.com advertises a single 3-watt led that puts out more light than incandescents [disperses at a 130 degree angle], I think I'm gonna snag a set of those, but am waiting cuz of the 25 buck a piece price tag
Those 3 watters look nice, except the limited 130 degree dispersal angle. I have a couple 3 watt LED Dinotte 140L taillights (rated at 140 lumens each) I use as taillights for my bicycle and they're much brighter than any car's brake or tail lamps.
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man those LEDs looks pretty good, I wish I could get a pair for the front, but I gotta fine something that would work in the reflector :-(
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Bought the EP27 flasher today. Was a bi*** to find where it went without pictures. Once I finally found the location it was easy to replace. Now I'm just waiting on my lights to get here.

Lone Ranger, what lights are you planning on getting? The superbrightleds.com ones or the 63 LED ones from Ebay?
I just ordered the 3-watt leds, I really wanted maximum brightness because I wanted to put these in my nightshaded 06 tails, however like Jeff said, the viewing angle is compromised, so I guess we'll see!

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Well I got the rest of my 63 LED lights today. Here's some videos:

Red LED vs. standard incandescent comparison in tail/brake lamp housing
Amber LED vs. standard incandescent comparison in rear turn signals

Lone Ranger if you have the ability it would be great if you could make some comparison videos with the 3 watters and the stockers once you get them. I just made my videos with a fairly cheap digital camera (kodak easyshare c743) that has a 640x480 at 30 fps video recording option.
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Well I got the rest of my 63 LED lights today. Here's some videos:

Red LED vs. standard incandescent comparison in tail/brake lamp housing
Amber LED vs. standard incandescent comparison in rear turn signals

Lone Ranger if you have the ability it would be great if you could make some comparison videos with the 3 watters and the stockers once you get them. I just made my videos with a fairly cheap digital camera (kodak easyshare c743) that has a 640x480 at 30 fps video recording option.
I don't have a digital camera I actually just take my pics with my so-so cell phone, I've taken a video on it before and it's not real good quality at all. I'll try to see if I can borrow my sisters cam to get a video. The only thing I'm worried about is whether my flasher will work alright with the LEDs, the EP27 flasher will not fit my truck but I do have an 2-pin electronic flasher in there. So if that works then you will see vids!
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Bought the EP27 flasher today. Was a bi*** to find where it went without pictures. Once I finally found the location it was easy to replace. Now I'm just waiting on my lights to get here.

Lone Ranger, what lights are you planning on getting? The superbrightleds.com ones or the 63 LED ones from Ebay?
Anyway you can post a pic of where it's at?
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So Jeff, you used a red LED in the rears? I thought maybe white would be brighter cause of the color. Also, dol you know the # for the cargo light bulbs? Remember I told you that those were wired into the turn signals also.
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You should use the colored leds vs. white for tail lights.
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From what I have found, white led's do not look very good when used for taillights with a red lense. The white led's make the red lense look pink instead of red. Nevertheless, the white led's are brighter than the red.
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Makes sence. I was just thinking of the brightness, not the color change.
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So Jeff, you used a red LED in the rears? I thought maybe white would be brighter cause of the color. Also, dol you know the # for the cargo light bulbs? Remember I told you that those were wired into the turn signals also.
Yeah the way LEDs work is different than incandescents. LEDs put out light of one wavelength, so a red LED puts out all red, and a white LED puts out all white. An incandescent filament can only put out one color (yellowish white) and colored incandescent lamps are made by coating the glass with a color to block all wavelengths except the one they want to get through (which decreases the light output).

If you have a 100 lumen white LED, and put it behind a red lens, the red lens is going to filter out everything except the red, and you are going to wind up with less than 100 lumens coming out the lens. If you have a 100 lumen red LED behind a red lens, theoretically all (or most) of the red light should get through.

If the cargo light bulbs are the same as the 3rd brake light bulbs it should be a 912. I don't have cargo lights though so I don't know for sure.

I tried taking some pictures of where the turn signal flasher module was in my truck. I was aiming the camera blind but here's what I came up with:

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The black box is the new flasher unit, and the yellow part was connected to the old flasher (a box the same color of yellow). I didn't try putting it back on the bracket...I just tossed it in there and it's stayed put and doesn't really make any rattling noises.
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