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** HID look with out the price** ( ideal)

today i was helping a friend of mine re-gel some theather lights. . i stated to look at them and they put out some serious heat and watts?..but they mite last only 100 hours or more idk.
soo,
why couldnt u do that to headlight?
it mite be hard b/c you have to take the headlight compleatly apart but u can get any color u want out of ur head light.. ( maybe like deep blue)and i know they sell high watt headlight bulbs too.
and i got to get the yellow tint out of the headlamps too.. but i think i know how to fix that.. but ideal wiil be takin for sure!
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today i was helping a friend of mine re-gel some theather lights. . i stated to look at them and they put out some serious heat and watts?..but they mite last only 100 hours or more idk.
soo,
why couldnt u do that to headlight?
it mite be hard b/c you have to take the headlight compleatly apart but u can get any color u want out of ur head light.. ( maybe like deep blue)and i know they sell high watt headlight bulbs too.
and i got to get the yellow tint out of the headlamps too.. but i think i know how to fix that.. but ideal wiil be takin for sure!
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. what do ya think
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. btw.
a gel is a thin platice gel that change the color of light.. but ya probaly know that.. laterz
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are those bulbs 9007? if not, how do you plan on wiring them up? if they only last 100 hours, how much do they cost? an average HID bulb lasts 3000+ hours, so that bulb, if it worked, would have to be 300 times LESS expensive for it to even equal out dollar wise. then you say it puts out some serious heat and watts....that serious heat may just melt your headlight housings, which would then add to the side that they are not a good idea. if they pull too many watts they can melt your wiring harness for the headlights, again adding to the not worth it side. also, do you mean "theater lights"? as in a movie theater? if its a bulb that isnt meant for a car, it is meant to run off of AC power and not DC. just more food for thought.
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also, the "HID look" is not just "BRIGHT". its also clear, piercing crystal clear.
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are those bulbs 9007? if not, how do you plan on wiring them up? if they only last 100 hours, how much do they cost? an average HID bulb lasts 3000+ hours, so that bulb, if it worked, would have to be 300 times LESS expensive for it to even equal out dollar wise. then you say it puts out some serious heat and watts....that serious heat may just melt your headlight housings, which would then add to the side that they are not a good idea. if they pull too many watts they can melt your wiring harness for the headlights, again adding to the not worth it side. also, do you mean "theater lights"? as in a movie theater? if its a bulb that isnt meant for a car, it is meant to run off of AC power and not DC. just more food for thought.
na its not the bulb its the gel that u slif into a holder that changes the original light color to the color of the gel.( blue,green,oranger, whatever the color is)... on a theather light.
to mod this gel for a headlight. i will have to take the head light apart compleatly ( around the seal).. and somehow make it work there.
if i cant do that to head light s. i can try on 100w fog lights.
did i clear this up right for ya?
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are those bulbs 9007? if not, how do you plan on wiring them up? if they only last 100 hours, how much do they cost? an average HID bulb lasts 3000+ hours, so that bulb, if it worked, would have to be 300 times LESS expensive for it to even equal out dollar wise. then you say it puts out some serious heat and watts....that serious heat may just melt your headlight housings, which would then add to the side that they are not a good idea. if they pull too many watts they can melt your wiring harness for the headlights, again adding to the not worth it side. also, do you mean "theater lights"? as in a movie theater? if its a bulb that isnt meant for a car, it is meant to run off of AC power and not DC. just more food for thought.
as in theather light.. it a stage light u would see in a high school or college stage.. mabe like a high dollar mood light .. i guess you could call it..
i wouldnt change the blub or any wireing for the ranger head lights... just adding a color peice of plastic to it to change the color... thats what the gel is ment to do for a theather light.
and the theather lights put out major heat ... just like a car head light dose.. but probbaly not as much..hopefull this help out and made thing clear as mud..lol
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As a side note to this thread... I recently bought two pair of 9007 HID bulbs for my Ranger off eBay. Although the boxes state "off-road use only", they are widely used on-road, as we all know.

My visibility has greatly improved. After following my daughter for several miles, I asked her if they bothered her by their brightness. She said they didn't.

This link is for the seller I used. The final cost is half what you would pay at WallyWorld.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Xenon...QQcmdZViewItem
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As a side note to this thread... I recently bought two pair of 9007 HID bulbs for my Ranger off eBay. Although the boxes state "off-road use only", they are widely used on-road, as we all know.

My visibility has greatly improved. After following my daughter for several miles, I asked her if they bothered her by their brightness. She said they didn't.

This link is for the seller I used. The final cost is half what you would pay at WallyWorld.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Xenon...QQcmdZViewItem
i wouldnt recommend that anyone run bulbs that exceed the stock bulb hi/lo wattage. i've seen tons of people melt huge sections of wiring harness and cause much more damage.
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As a side note to this thread... I recently bought two pair of 9007 HID bulbs for my Ranger off eBay. Although the boxes state "off-road use only", they are widely used on-road, as we all know.

My visibility has greatly improved. After following my daughter for several miles, I asked her if they bothered her by their brightness. She said they didn't.

This link is for the seller I used. The final cost is half what you would pay at WallyWorld.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Xenon...QQcmdZViewItem
those lights are NOT HID, they are "imitation" HID.
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na its not the bulb its the gel that u slif into a holder that changes the original light color to the color of the gel.( blue,green,oranger, whatever the color is)... on a theather light.
to mod this gel for a headlight. i will have to take the head light apart compleatly ( around the seal).. and somehow make it work there.
if i cant do that to head light s. i can try on 100w fog lights.
did i clear this up right for ya?
so, what you want to do is take JUST the gel and put that on the current bulb? or at least on the inside of the headlight itself? if so, how is that anything like HID? that will just change the color....
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so, what you want to do is take JUST the gel and put that on the current bulb? or at least on the inside of the headlight itself? if so, how is that anything like HID? that will just change the color....
well.. it just giveing the color look.. true.. its not HID.. but it just a head turning affect.. nothing more.
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First of all dude, you have got to give it a break with the *** ~~~ on all your subject lines. It is not necessary, doesn't gain you any more attention, it is annoying to read. Just a suggestion.

As for the theatrical lighting gels, you have to use a very very very very very very light blue gel for this. It would have to be almost clear with a very slight tinge of blue. A very light CTB gel would probably be perfect.

For the gel to be effective, you would have to break open your headlight and glue it to the inside of the lens. I'm not sure how this would look from the outside but probably not good. You can't have it in direct contact with the bulb. So, in conclusion, this would work but it is highly impractical.
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go ahead and put the blue gels in there and watch your truck get towed. where im from, if you get "busted" with something like that, if you can not take it off/turn it off, which at night you cant, and drive away, your vehicle would be towed.
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Yep...blue tinted headlights are highly illegal in most states. Good luck driving past the first cop you see!

I think the gel would wrap around the outside of the lens pretty well, if you secured it properly...
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i wouldnt recommend that anyone run bulbs that exceed the stock bulb hi/lo wattage. i've seen tons of people melt huge sections of wiring harness and cause much more damage.
Whats the stock Hi/Low voltage for a 93 Ranger?
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Voltage is always 12 (13.8 or so with the alternator spinning). You are thinking of watts. Stock low and high beams are 45/65 for 9004 bulbs or 55/65 for 9007 bulbs.
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the idea will work, like fireranger says, but its highly impractical. there are tons of bulb manufacturers doing what youre suggesting... take silverstar bulbs for example. theyre tinted slightly blue to simulate an HID look. The blue tint reduces the yellowish look from the halogen and adds a tinge of blue.
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