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I am restoring this 84 I bought and parts of the engine are missing!
I can’t find them for purchase anywhere and the junk yards near me are dead for this model right now
any ideas?
the air assembly that’s on top of the carb has this big long squarish hose that goes to front of truck
i cannot find this part anywhere
nor the interior trim of the vehicle
the plastic and metal trim pieces that go around door and behind seat etc
the panel that sits on top of glove box
small pieve
and there’s a random canister in this truck to left of engine that is literally not hooked up to anything!
main objective is finding this air cleaner assembly hose vent thing
but if I can’t, what are my options? Can I upgrade it somehow? How can I find out what fits this truck like that? I do not wanna replace the carb just to get an assembly that fits but I’m sure there’s some way around this?
The can is the Vacuum reservoir, it was/is used for the cab vents, i.e. defrost, panel, floor, these vents use vacuum "motors" to move the flaps and hold them in selected positions
Defrost is default, no vacuum position of the flaps
There should be a vacuum hose on passenger side edge of firewall next to heater box in engine bay
That hose would have run to the can
Then other hose from the can to the intake manifold(vacuum source) there would have been an inline check valve on this hose
And in the 1984 the vacuum reservoir may have also been used for several other engine systems that needed stable vacuum, EGR for example
VAC RES is how its abbreviated on vacuum diagrams if you have one
Your pretty much going to be limited to junk / salvage yards and maybe e-bay for your parts, especially for interior trim. You can check web sites like NOS Parts for some, but for a 37 year old truck don't hold your breath.
If the interior panels are in good shape aside from scratches and scrapes, it's easy to lightly sand them to a uniform finish and use any of the good quality interior trim paint to renew them. If done right it's hard to tell difference as opposed to new.
Parts like the lower dash trim are going to be used/salvage or e-bay. Also, post in classified / wanted...maybe someone who is parting out an older truck will have the parts you need. Check your local Facebook Market Place for a truck thats being parted out.
Hose your looking for is simply an accordion type hose that slips over air cleaner and runs to a bracket on the exhaust manifold....feeds warm air to carb on cold days. Nothing special about it...check on line for air cleaner / carburetor pre heater hose. Many different styles and shapes to fit air cleaner.
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i cannot find that damned hose anywhere!
I mean anywhere
i have the canister as you can see in the pictures but I’m still unsure of how to hook it up!
I found this diagram and it’s funny because even in diagram it goes nowhere !
Go to Parts Geek, look up 1983-1984 Ford Ranger Pre Heat Hose part 5511-07551589.
Your looking for that or something similar. It's flexible and ends are bendable.
Honestly, your in Texas, and this time of year you really don't need it. It supplies warm air to carb on cold days...maybe needed there during winter, but rest of year not really needed. Once the engine warms up, iit's not needed.
Can't help with the canister as my 2009 is totally different.
Found this photo on line of a 1985 Bronco 2...this may be what your looking for...someone here with an 84 Ranger may jump in if it's correct....
If this is what you need, check the bottom of the air cleaner "snorkel' intake port.....it there is one, that would be where the pre heat hose attaches to. There should be a corresponding round fitting on the exhaust manifold below it, where the hose attaches to supply warm air.
Most of the vacuum system in your 1984 was for emissions, and if you don't have to pass an emissions test every year then many people just didn't repair these systems
Carbon can uses a vacuum hose from UPPER carburetor(ported vacuum)
Then another hose from the Gas Tank
When engine is running carb vacuum sucks fuel vapors from inside the gas tank, thru the carbon canister and into the carb
When engine is off and vapors would be filtered out by the carbon
It is to prevent gasoline vapors from polluting the air
EGR(exhaust gas recirculation) is to slow the temperature rise in cylinders when accelerating or under load, higher cylinder temps cause a spike in NOX gases which are toxic
If exhaust is added to the intake at that time is slows down the burning of the gasoline which keeps the temp down, so emission system
But good side effect is that it also helps to prevent pinging/knocking when using Regular gas, which can occur when cylinders get too hot
Most of the vacuum system in your 1984 was for emissions, and if you don't have to pass an emissions test every year then many people just didn't repair these systems
Carbon can uses a vacuum hose from UPPER carburetor(ported vacuum)
Then another hose from the Gas Tank
When engine is running carb vacuum sucks fuel vapors from inside the gas tank, thru the carbon canister and into the carb
When engine is off and vapors would be filtered out by the carbon
It is to prevent gasoline vapors from polluting the air
EGR(exhaust gas recirculation) is to slow the temperature rise in cylinders when accelerating or under load, higher cylinder temps cause a spike in NOX gases which are toxic
If exhaust is added to the intake at that time is slows down the burning of the gasoline which keeps the temp down, so emission system
But good side effect is that it also helps to prevent pinging/knocking when using Regular gas, which can occur when cylinders get too hot
you’re the man
im gonna redo all this so it’s like how the factory wanted it
i just wish the guy would've said something ha
Now it’s just annoying because there’s no videos of this nor any real references I’ve found, yet
i see where that carbon can hooks up kinda right now
but there’s still that tvv or whatever is in between carbon can and carb on that diagram?
also still unsure as to where the pressure vacuum canister hooks up too
side note
on the carburator
the standard, I’m not touching anything, position for it should be closed? Or open?
Mine is closed at all times unless I hit the gas and then it opens
and I am fairly certain this is incorrect
i haven’t driven this vehicle yet, just getting it running
I think you're probably missing the vacuum line "harness". On most of the mid 80's Ford trucks I've taken apart, there were a ton of vacuum lines all bundled together that went to the different things that Ron has mentioned. I think this is why you can't find anywhere to connect the cannister, because there's nothing left for you to connect it to.
Found these by just googling up the description....
Canister Purge Valve, Ford part E27E-9B963-AA E-Bay, $14.95
Vent Valve, Dorman part 911-060 $14.51 or Dorman part 911-001 $13.36, both on Amazon....these are the tank vent valves....still searching for the solenoid valve.
NOT 100 % sure, but possible Ford part # for solenoid vent is D8TZ-9B982-A. Shows as discontinued part at Fort Parts Giant, and other web sites have it listed as fitting many models and engines from Ford.
Best bet is salvage yard or someone parting out an older Ranger.
I have found if you simply google up, in the simplest terms what your looking for, google comes up with parts, part ###, diagrams, photos, ect.
Hope it helps.
FOUND IT...new Ford part # is CX-239, and it's listed on E-Bay for $59.95....just go to E-Bay and punch it in.
Found these by just googling up the description....
Canister Purge Valve, Ford part E27E-9B963-AA E-Bay, $14.95
Vent Valve, Dorman part 911-060 $14.51 or Dorman part 911-001 $13.36, both on Amazon....these are the tank vent valves....still searching for the solenoid valve.
NOT 100 % sure, but possible Ford part # for solenoid vent is D8TZ-9B982-A. Shows as discontinued part at Fort Parts Giant, and other web sites have it listed as fitting many models and engines from Ford.
Best bet is salvage yard or someone parting out an older Ranger.
I have found if you simply google up, in the simplest terms what your looking for, google comes up with parts, part ###, diagrams, photos, ect.
Hope it helps.
FOUND IT...new Ford part # is CX-239, and it's listed on E-Bay for $59.95....just go to E-Bay and punch it in.
Thank you!
Man I have been going on and on thru videos and googling this stuff, I've found some but not all. Then also in the video I tried to post,
the Vacuum pump is something in the engine not connected to anything!
And it also isn't on these diagrams so im like wtf
what do I hook that up too now
Hooking up all that spaghetti is, unfortunately, your fun project !
Also, did find a part # for the air inlet tube. Ford part E-5TZ-9A624-F.....also discontinued, but keep looking.
You could look for someone who has a 84-85 Ranger or 84-85 Bronco 2 with the 2.8 thats original and get a look'see where everything goes. If your doing a restoration, take your time and start searching.
Lots of owners out there who would be glad to help. Lots of times I have approached a vehicle owner to ask questions, and have had numerous people ask me about mine, to see this or that.
All part of the fun.
With vacuum system disconnected/removed many also swapped to regular carb and got rid of the "feed back" carb that came with 1984 Ranger
If you are going to rebuild the vacuum system you can get colored silicon vacuum hoses, expensive but helps when running the lines where they need to go, and can "jazz up" the engine bay, lol
I don't think Ford was using the hard plastic, pre-molded, vacuum lines in 1984, so finding correct pre-molded colored lines would not be possible
With vacuum system disconnected/removed many also swapped to regular carb and got rid of the "feed back" carb that came with 1984 Ranger
If you are going to rebuild the vacuum system you can get colored silicon vacuum hoses, expensive but helps when running the lines where they need to go, and can "jazz up" the engine bay, lol
I don't think Ford was using the hard plastic, pre-molded, vacuum lines in 1984, so finding correct pre-molded colored lines would not be possible
Shoot
It has to be a "new" carb then. I was working on the carb and some stuff didnt add up so i just guessed it wasnt stock but now you have confirmed my suspicions
So now if i get all the emmisions bullshit, which i plan on, do i have to buy a different carb now??
damn
Anyways for an UPDATE:
I have postponed emissions stuff as its another few hundred dollars in parts and hours in time but i can get it going without that for now
I have made the engine work I believe as I have yet to start and run but I believe ive fixed the flooding issue completely
I currently have all the interior torn out in entirety
reupholstering seat
cleaning trim
redoing doorpanels
Possible power windows (on the fence rn)
then layering Noise cancelling mats
then Insulation that is also noise cancelling
then real insulation
then vinyl flooring
looking for some random parts
3rd brake light
shocks
leafsprings
rear sliding window
trim for windows
1 chrome fender
**** like that
ive already scoured the interwebz for a bunch of stuff thats near impossible to find
like interrior trim or the coolant reservoir etc
I took apart the door panel right, well there weren't any speakers???? what the heck?
There was however this like vent with a little super thin rubber flap (where i thought the speaker would be) it was a rectangle
post pics tomorrow