acetone better mpg??? - Page 2 - Ranger-Forums - The Ultimate Ford Ranger Resource


General Ford Ranger Discussion General discussion of the Ford Ranger that does not fit in any other sub-forum.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #26  
Old 05-14-2008
n3elz's Avatar
RF Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Kennett Square, PA
Posts: 10,620
And you know what, Sara: he's probably right. But he's not here and I am so I'll be a test mule, lol. Hopefully we can put this one "to bed", as they say.

Nice name by the way: my oldest daughter's name is Sarah (with the "h" obviously). She's married and living in England now.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 05-14-2008
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Stuck in, NJ
Posts: 5
Octane boosters use Xylene & Toluene. Both of them should also provide solvent enough to clean the injectors too...

I do know that Acetone in Diesel fuel raises the Cetane so hot you melt holes in the top center of the pistons...Don't need to do that to my 3.Slow...
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 05-14-2008
n3elz's Avatar
RF Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Kennett Square, PA
Posts: 10,620
Holey Piston Burner, Batman!
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 05-14-2008
malydeen's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 632
Seriously. If it helped improve milage dont you think it would be common knowledge by now and not some rumor spread around the internet? I know it doesnt work just because of that simple fact.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 05-14-2008
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: PUEBLO, CO
Posts: 3,753
Quote:
Originally Posted by malydeen View Post
Seriously. If it helped improve milage dont you think it would be common knowledge by now and not some rumor spread around the internet? I know it doesnt work just because of that simple fact.
the only one who will ACTUALLY know is john when he tests it. thats it.
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 05-14-2008
n3elz's Avatar
RF Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Kennett Square, PA
Posts: 10,620
Thanks, Gil.

Well, as I said, but few paid attention: it may have been of much more value with non-ethanol gas in CARBEURATED engines where the ability of the fuel to evaporate into a vapor was critical. Now we inject the fuel in such a fine spray (with properly working injectors) that it's much less of an issue.

This is my thought as to why this doesn't work so well now.

The one thing about this stuff though is it's longevity. Since we have people saying they "know" something based on their read of the "myth" let me say this: most "myths" have a grain of truth in them somewhere. It may be hidden, long ago made irrelevant, or some other obscuring factor. But the "truth" in them is what once made them so powerful.

It's just like the swirly spacers: at one time they may have made a difference in fuel mixing and vaporizing efficiency because of how carbeurators work and because of sharp bends in the intake manifold right below the carbeurator. Such geometry may have benefitted both from spacing the carb out, and swirling the air/fuel mix to produce a more uniform mixture.

But now, with port injected vehicles with side draft long plenum intakes: they do virtually nothing. Yet still, the reason the idea still has power is that at one point they DID work -- but conditions changed.

Anyway, that's my take on some of these things.
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 05-14-2008
malydeen's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 632
Quote:
Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
the only one who will ACTUALLY know is john when he tests it. thats it.
Unless he tests it on a dyno under strict conditions he wont be able to tell. I can get from 13-17 MPG in the city just on how I drive.


BTW do you think that the government did 9/11?
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 05-14-2008
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: PUEBLO, CO
Posts: 3,753
Quote:
Originally Posted by malydeen View Post
Unless he tests it on a dyno under strict conditions he wont be able to tell. I can get from 13-17 MPG in the city just on how I drive.


BTW do you think that the government did 9/11?


this is where I have figured trying to debate this with you is useless...
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 05-14-2008
malydeen's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 632
I mean come on. Im not dumb. If it worked BP would have been putting it in their gas years ago, and charged more for their gas.

When theres a new product on the market, that changes the way of life, it doesn't get spread on the internet as a rumor. Someone brings it out and makes money off of it.

This whole idea of gas comspirisies is dumb. If it worked it would be common knowledge and everyone would have it. Car companies would put it in their owners manuals, and someone would be making money off of it.


Ok just for a moment lets say it works. You spend $15 on a gallon of acetone and you put 40oz in a 20 gallon tank of gas, That's $5 more per tank. You just spent $0.25 more per gallon. If you get a 2 MPG bump from it, you will be breaking even.

w/o acetone $3.50per gallon/17MPG= .21 cents per mile
w/ acetone $3.75per gallon/19MPG = .20 cents per mile


Does acetone even desolve in to gasoline? Thats the first thing I would question.
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 05-15-2008
n3elz's Avatar
RF Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Kennett Square, PA
Posts: 10,620
You put 3 oz. max per 10 gallons of gas. You're not paying attention.

There may be transportation and storage issues in using acetone from the point of distribution. You're oversimplifying -- which is what most folks do.

You're arguing really stupidly: "don't you think so-and-so would have done it if..." is neither scientific nor data driven.

You aren't contributing anything to the discussion -- just trying to sound like you've got it down -- only thing is: you don't.

You don't even bother to separate the issue from the politics: what does any conspiracy theory have to do with this? I don't believe any of that stuff and I doubt many here do -- but you try to beat people down by distraction.

We have a phrase for that: you're being a jerk.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 05-15-2008
malydeen's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 632
Im just saying this is America, if theres money to be made somewhere someone is going to get rich off of it, its not going to be a rumor on the internet.

If there was problems shipping it then there would be little bottles sitting by the register at every gas station in this country. If you would think realistically for a moment you would understand what I am saying. Not everything needs to be proven scientifically...

And all that number junk was just made up and yes I was trying to sould like I knew some thing. my bad.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 05-15-2008
Mark98xlt's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Parma Ohio
Posts: 13
Hey John what kind of mpg does your truck get with those 35's on?
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 05-15-2008
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: PUEBLO, CO
Posts: 3,753
Quote:
Originally Posted by malydeen View Post
Im just saying this is America...
WTF? NO WAY!!!!


and to think i've been wearing this stupid sombrero the whole time!
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 05-15-2008
n3elz's Avatar
RF Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Kennett Square, PA
Posts: 10,620
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark98xlt View Post
Hey John what kind of mpg does your truck get with those 35's on?

14 to 15 average. I seldom take pure highway trips and spend most of my time on back roads. With the increase in weight and lack of aerodynamics I'm not too unhappy.

I actually haven't measured it much since the t-case went in though. Part of this summers overall test will give me a better idea of my MPG with and without acetone.
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 05-15-2008
n3elz's Avatar
RF Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Kennett Square, PA
Posts: 10,620
Quote:
Originally Posted by malydeen View Post
Im just saying this is America, if theres money to be made somewhere someone is going to get rich off of it, its not going to be a rumor on the internet.

If there was problems shipping it then there would be little bottles sitting by the register at every gas station in this country. If you would think realistically for a moment you would understand what I am saying. Not everything needs to be proven scientifically...

And all that number junk was just made up and yes I was trying to sould like I knew some thing. my bad.
No, I do see your point and I'm sorry I got so harsh. But actually if we're going to quit arguing about his over and over again then maybe it does need a bit more data-driven exercise with many tanks full under similar weather conditions and so forth.
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 05-15-2008
levelIIrdneck's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: shelbyville,tn
Posts: 196
my alternative fuels teacher said straight acetone... .4 ounces to 10 gallons of fuel... could help at about 2-3 mpg.. i haven't tried it yet but i'm gonna
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 05-15-2008
Mark98xlt's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Parma Ohio
Posts: 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by n3elz View Post
14 to 15 average. I seldom take pure highway trips and spend most of my time on back roads. With the increase in weight and lack of aerodynamics I'm not too unhappy.

I actually haven't measured it much since the t-case went in though. Part of this summers overall test will give me a better idea of my MPG with and without acetone.
Damn I pull the same on 25's.. lol
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 05-15-2008
n3elz's Avatar
RF Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Kennett Square, PA
Posts: 10,620
I'm running one of Fred's tunes and using all synthetics also. Adds up.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Acetone... tom2004 2.9L & 3.0L V6 Tech 4 05-13-2008 11:44 AM
Acetone+Paint..... Casper98 Exterior Semi-Tech 14 03-04-2008 06:36 PM
double your gas mileage with acetone?? Type_Ranger General Technical & Electrical 13 04-18-2007 01:42 AM
Acetone to Increase Mileage/Performance damonart 4.0L OHV & SOHC V6 Tech 33 10-31-2006 03:38 PM
Tried the acetone in the gas tank trick. detroitmuscle36 General Ford Ranger Discussion 7 10-18-2005 08:21 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:21 PM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.