And you know what, Sara: he's probably right. But he's not here and I am so I'll be a test mule, lol. Hopefully we can put this one "to bed", as they say.

Nice name by the way: my oldest daughter's name is Sarah (with the "h" obviously). She's married and living in England now.

 

Octane boosters use Xylene & Toluene. Both of them should also provide solvent enough to clean the injectors too...

I do know that Acetone in Diesel fuel raises the Cetane so hot you melt holes in the top center of the pistons...Don't need to do that to my 3.Slow...

 

Holey Piston Burner, Batman!

 

Seriously. If it helped improve milage dont you think it would be common knowledge by now and not some rumor spread around the internet? I know it doesnt work just because of that simple fact.

 

the only one who will ACTUALLY know is john when he tests it. thats it.

 

Thanks, Gil.

Well, as I said, but few paid attention: it may have been of much more value with non-ethanol gas in CARBEURATED engines where the ability of the fuel to evaporate into a vapor was critical. Now we inject the fuel in such a fine spray (with properly working injectors) that it's much less of an issue.

This is my thought as to why this doesn't work so well now.

The one thing about this stuff though is it's longevity. Since we have people saying they "know" something based on their read of the "myth" let me say this: most "myths" have a grain of truth in them somewhere. It may be hidden, long ago made irrelevant, or some other obscuring factor. But the "truth" in them is what once made them so powerful.

It's just like the swirly spacers: at one time they may have made a difference in fuel mixing and vaporizing efficiency because of how carbeurators work and because of sharp bends in the intake manifold right below the carbeurator. Such geometry may have benefitted both from spacing the carb out, and swirling the air/fuel mix to produce a more uniform mixture.

But now, with port injected vehicles with side draft long plenum intakes: they do virtually nothing. Yet still, the reason the idea still has power is that at one point they DID work -- but conditions changed.

Anyway, that's my take on some of these things.

 

Unless he tests it on a dyno under strict conditions he wont be able to tell. I can get from 13-17 MPG in the city just on how I drive.


BTW do you think that the government did 9/11?

 

this is where I have figured trying to debate this with you is useless...

 

I mean come on. Im not dumb. If it worked BP would have been putting it in their gas years ago, and charged more for their gas.

When theres a new product on the market, that changes the way of life, it doesn't get spread on the internet as a rumor. Someone brings it out and makes money off of it.

This whole idea of gas comspirisies is dumb. If it worked it would be common knowledge and everyone would have it. Car companies would put it in their owners manuals, and someone would be making money off of it.


Ok just for a moment lets say it works. You spend $15 on a gallon of acetone and you put 40oz in a 20 gallon tank of gas, That's $5 more per tank. You just spent $0.25 more per gallon. If you get a 2 MPG bump from it, you will be breaking even.

w/o acetone $3.50per gallon/17MPG= .21 cents per mile
w/ acetone $3.75per gallon/19MPG = .20 cents per mile


Does acetone even desolve in to gasoline? Thats the first thing I would question.

 

You put 3 oz. max per 10 gallons of gas. You're not paying attention.

There may be transportation and storage issues in using acetone from the point of distribution. You're oversimplifying -- which is what most folks do.

You're arguing really stupidly: "don't you think so-and-so would have done it if..." is neither scientific nor data driven.

You aren't contributing anything to the discussion -- just trying to sound like you've got it down -- only thing is: you don't.

You don't even bother to separate the issue from the politics: what does any conspiracy theory have to do with this? I don't believe any of that stuff and I doubt many here do -- but you try to beat people down by distraction.

We have a phrase for that: you're being a jerk.

 

Im just saying this is America, if theres money to be made somewhere someone is going to get rich off of it, its not going to be a rumor on the internet.

If there was problems shipping it then there would be little bottles sitting by the register at every gas station in this country. If you would think realistically for a moment you would understand what I am saying. Not everything needs to be proven scientifically...

And all that number junk was just made up and yes I was trying to sould like I knew some thing. my bad.

 

Hey John what kind of mpg does your truck get with those 35's on?

 

WTF? NO WAY!!!!


and to think i've been wearing this stupid sombrero the whole time!

 

14 to 15 average. I seldom take pure highway trips and spend most of my time on back roads. With the increase in weight and lack of aerodynamics I'm not too unhappy.

I actually haven't measured it much since the t-case went in though. Part of this summers overall test will give me a better idea of my MPG with and without acetone.

 

No, I do see your point and I'm sorry I got so harsh. But actually if we're going to quit arguing about his over and over again then maybe it does need a bit more data-driven exercise with many tanks full under similar weather conditions and so forth.

 

my alternative fuels teacher said straight acetone... .4 ounces to 10 gallons of fuel... could help at about 2-3 mpg.. i haven't tried it yet but i'm gonna

 

Damn I pull the same on 25's.. lol

 

I'm running one of Fred's tunes and using all synthetics also. Adds up.