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I see no reason to apologize. It's getting towards the end of the month, they must be looking to meet their quota. It's all about money when it comes to cops.

I would just fix the **** so they'll leave you alone. Even though you would think they'd have better things to do.
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It seems like these rules all really depend on where you live and what the cops are like. Although most places will get you for a broken tail light especially if you are driving "suspeciusly" or theres strange smoke coming from the cab. But here in Orlando/Winter Park the cops never really care about issues like fender flares. I've seen trucks with the tires sticking way out and the cops could care less. There's trucks raised a million feet so I could easily walk under them driving around. Also my truck has a 90% tint and cops haven't said a thing. So just move down here.
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factory glass is tinted to 65-70%, how could you have 90%?
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however, i was suprised at the responses to my thread and i found it interesting that each person who replied to my thread had 2wd trucks or un-lifted trucks, that are spotless and really really clean. i like to off road, and I dont spend hours washing and waxing my truck. (thats why its so dirty)

Just because someones truck isnt lifted doesnt mean they dont offroad. I wanted and needed a lift badly for my ranger but I cant afford a suspension lift and didnt want a body lift. That goes the same for really really clean trucks, there are trucks on here that have a show room finish yet are taken out into trails and wheeled hard. The owners just take care of them and clean them well afterwards.


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factory glass is tinted to 65-70%, how could you have 90%?

maby he has 90% over factory..
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Yea, you know some people go out after they buy their vehicles and tint their windows. lol
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Maybe he is confused, I think he means 10%
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Maybe he is confused, I think he means 10%
LOL.......yep, and no one caught on. Factory is 14-20%.
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It's whatever is super dark, aftermarket tint. I just know It's a pain at night sense it makes me able to see very little to the sides and behind me.
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read the original thread that got locked

and *****ing about warnings? Come on man where i live you get tickets for all that stuff and then some ... as for the speedo, get it recalibrated, run the right size tires, or get a gps and use that to monitor your speed

the trailer hook is dumb though, ive gotten pulled over and warned for it too, mines on the bumper so it would be a pain in the *** to remove and put back on every time i used it, so till i get a ticket not gonna take it off.
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To the OP... I'm glad after all of this you are seeing the bigger picture here. The "I didn't have time" excuse and the "I keep breaking it" excuses don't work as you've seen. Fix the stuff rather than going off-roading or out with your friends or whatever. Once the required stuff is out of the way, you can have all the discretionary fun you want.


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I see no reason to apologize. It's getting towards the end of the month, they must be looking to meet their quota. It's all about money when it comes to cops.

I would just fix the **** so they'll leave you alone. Even though you would think they'd have better things to do.
You seem to be under the mistaken impression that there is money to be made. Fines and penalties are paid to the STATE because they are STATE laws. The police officers themselves do not make a commission of writing tickets. The town/city doesn't see a dime worth of the money. And ticket quotas are a myth spread by people who can't accept responsibility for their own actions. There is no such thing. Sorry to burst your bubble.

You think they should have something better to do? Another classic line used as an excuse for not being responsible for yourself. Well next time you see a crime in progress, pick up the phone and report it so they have something to do. In the meantime, traffic enforcement is also part of the their job so deal with it.
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You seem to be under the mistaken impression that there is money to be made. Fines and penalties are paid to the STATE because they are STATE laws. The police officers themselves do not make a commission of writing tickets. The town/city doesn't see a dime worth of the money. And ticket quotas are a myth spread by people who can't accept responsibility for their own actions. There is no such thing. Sorry to burst your bubble.

You think they should have something better to do? Another classic line used as an excuse for not being responsible for yourself. Well next time you see a crime in progress, pick up the phone and report it so they have something to do. In the meantime, traffic enforcement is also part of the their job so deal with it.
There is money to be made. Most towns and cities get funding from the STATE. If they make the STATE money they get to keep their jobs and continue to get paid.

If a cop was to never write a ticket or less then other cops he would probably lose his job before the others would. So there is a quota even if it's not written. Job security is pretty much the same thing as money.

The police know where the major problems are and still they waste their time with petty crap. They do it to see if they can catch you for other things in turn making more money for the STATE. I understand that some of the major problems come out of petty stops but sometimes it's just ridiculous. They spend too much time worrying about the wrong things and people.
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And ticket quotas are a myth spread by people who can't accept responsibility for their own actions. There is no such thing. Sorry to burst your bubble.
The local NBC news station did a story on such a topic before.

The police dept. handed over all there traffic citations for 1 month. There was no increase in speeding tickets or other non accident tickets.

To the OP man up and pay the fines and let this be a life lesson.
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If a cop was to never write a ticket or less then other cops he would probably lose his job before the others would. So there is a quota even if it's not written. Job security is pretty much the same thing as money.

The police know where the major problems are and still they waste their time with petty crap. They do it to see if they can catch you for other things in turn making more money for the STATE. I understand that some of the major problems come out of petty stops but sometimes it's just ridiculous. They spend too much time worrying about the wrong things and people.
yup.

Disclaimer: As far as california is concerned i have no problems with city cops or sheriffs they have a job to do and have always treated me with respect, but my experience with the highway patrol (state police) has always been negative except for one instance where the lady was very nice to me and used my tints as an excuse to pull me over and check for dui, and then due to my honesty to every question (and blowing a .00) i was then given a warning instead of a ticket for the tint.
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If a cop nabbed you for several things, then obviously that means you were breaking the law.

If you are constantly offorading and do not have time to fix or wash your truck, then maybe consider not going offroading for a weekend and clean and fix your truck properly.

Cops have heard every excuse in the book and when it comes to breaking laws and having an unsafe vehicle, there is no excuse for that. FIX IT.

If I was a traffic enforcement officer, I would seriously be the biggest ***** of a cop out there, just for your own safety and of others.
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There is money to be made. Most towns and cities get funding from the STATE. If they make the STATE money they get to keep their jobs and continue to get paid.

If a cop was to never write a ticket or less then other cops he would probably lose his job before the others would. So there is a quota even if it's not written. Job security is pretty much the same thing as money.

The police know where the major problems are and still they waste their time with petty crap. They do it to see if they can catch you for other things in turn making more money for the STATE. I understand that some of the major problems come out of petty stops but sometimes it's just ridiculous. They spend too much time worrying about the wrong things and people.
I'm sorry dude. But you have no clue how any of this works. You're just wrong. I'm not going to sit here and keep going back and fourth about it since your mind is already made up. If it makes you happy to think all that stuff, then go ahead and be happy.
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I'm sorry dude. But you have no clue how any of this works. You're just wrong. I'm not going to sit here and keep going back and fourth about it since your mind is already made up. If it makes you happy to think all that stuff, then go ahead and be happy.
So you know how it works? Your opinion is based on your paycheck.
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If funding comes straight from the state and all the ticket money goes to the state then why does the police department in my city have 4 or so undercover Shelby Mustangs along with a sweet tank. Plus all their other random things. Although my town has little crime (opposite of Orlando 3 miles away) and most of their job is writing tickets, busting parties (punishment is however they feel), and randomly helping people.
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I just wasted time even reading this and the locked thread.
I just want to say, with everyone else, quit *****ing.
If you're breaking laws, you're getting pulled over. Don't ***** and make excuses because you offroad too much and don't have time to fix it. Stupid. Atleast the license plate and tail light, only take a couple of minutes. Have to pay to play. If you can't figure out how to recalibrate the speedo or figure out how fast you are going, don't put on bigger tires. I can only imagine how old it gets to hear everyone use tires as an excuse to speeding.

Who cares where the money goes when you pay a ticket. The officer is just doing his job as he is supposed to.
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GPS fixes everything
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And ticket quotas are a myth spread by people who can't accept responsibility for their own actions. There is no such thing. Sorry to burst your bubble.

The cops have a job to do and part of it is writing tickets. In my experience I received a DOT inspection on I684 in New York at the rest area on the southbound side. There was near a foot of snow on the ground and parking lot was an icy mess. I was a 100% legal and asked the officer while he was doing the inspection why they were out today of all days. His reply to me was "If I wasn't out here inspecting trucks then I wouldn't have a job"

My uncle is a state trooper in Delaware and he told me the DOT officers there have to write so many citations per month to stay on that detail.

So I agree with you most officers may not have a number quota they must meet, but the number of tickets they write does have a reflection on their job performance. I'm not trying to argue with you here just saying that most jobs have some form of performance requirements and incentives.

And yes I have a clean driving record with no tickets or accidents within the last five years. Besides the occasional tinted windows ticket.
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I'm sorry dude. But you have no clue how any of this works. You're just wrong. I'm not going to sit here and keep going back and fourth about it since your mind is already made up. If it makes you happy to think all that stuff, then go ahead and be happy.
Im pretty sure he has the right idea, I dont have a problem with you at all, not trying to start anything, and I dont want you to take it personal, but maybe you should sit back and read what seed is saying. You are one of the first to jump when someone makes a negative comment about law enforcement, do you have beef with generic civilians? If so, you shouldnt be anywhere near a patrol car or a ticket book. I really think that most cops have forgotten that they are out there to serve and protect, and that doesnt mean to serve tickets and protect themselves only!. Dont get me wrong, I do appreciate leos for what they stand for, but not always how they handle things.... I have seen leos get reprimanded for not writing enough tickets, so yes, in theory they do have quotas... Not that they are required by state, but the individual agencies do expect tickets to be written. Another thing that really gets under my skin is the fact that every leo has his own opinion as to how the law reads and how he can site you for that statute... If he/she is wrong, it doesnt matter, it still costs YOU! One last thing..... I believe that citations written by leos that get fired for wrongful doings(on or off duty) should be completely thrown out of court... I dont appreciate a hypocrite in any way, shape, or form, and especially one that is supposed to be protecting citizens...
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FireRanger and Seed, take it to the PM or end it. A thread hack is okay here and there, as I have done in the past. But you both are "arguing with a stop sign". Neither of you will win. So end it.

To the OP, glad you man'd up and admitted your wrongs, just fix your ****. I played baseball/basketball in high school while working 30hrs a week and found time to make minor but necessary repairs....you can do it buddy.
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I ended it and stopped discussing it with seed about it 11 hours ago yesterday when I told him to believe what he wants. I have no desire to continue trying to explain the facts of reality to someone who does not and will not ever want to hear it anyway. I have other things to do.

I am not a police officer and I have no beef with "generic civilians". My beef is with people who, rather than accepting responsibility for their own actions, think its more fun to trash an entire profession who's job it is to protect those people's ungrateful backside. If there was an iota of fact to their statements, it wouldn't be a problem since every profession has their bad apples and everyone screws up sometimes. So yes, I'm usually here to jump on them and point out how wrong they are and explain the reality of it. Some people, like the original poster of this thread got it (not just from me, several others as well). And that makes it worthwhile. He'll fix is truck. It will be safer, legal, and he won't keep getting pulled over.

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To the OP: Glad you learned from your experience - 4 separate stops and warnings, and only ONE ticket out of it all - you were lucky you didn't get hit in the pocket book for more.

So, it seems to me, it wasn't all about $$$ - I think what most in these forums were telling you, and what you decided to do about it (fix the problems) was the obvious, logical and correct thing to do.

Consider yourself lucky - now if you get stopped for the same issues in future, you'll have no one but yourself to blame.

"Wake up calls" can be aggravating, but that's part of being woken up.

BTW, credit to you for apologizing when you realized that you were wrong in how you expressed your feelings about this matter.
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