Ford undecided on Ranger replacement?
#26
01-18-2010
Explain why Autozone, Advance Auto and Carquest autopart chains are choosing the Ranger over the F150. and explain why the Ranger's "fleet sales" are far ahead of the F150. ........................................... but as far as fleets go, the Ranger slaughters the F150 very badly because THEY'RE CHEAP.
Even though the Ranger is cheap, the market is declining for them. Ford sold less than 50K of them last year. The Tacoma sold around 70K last year. The next best seller was way way behind either of those models so what sense does it make to invest in a unique platform in a declining segment? Alan Mullaly already stated that he wants to get away from the unique platforms worldwide. This is part of the reason for the Falcon, Mustang and MKR all being rumored to be on a shared platform next time around.
Its all good if you ask me. Id like to see a 3.5L Ecoboost in a Mustang that isn't computer limited by a weak sauce AWD transaxle.
#27
01-18-2010
Just because I'm bored
Wow does that say ford F-series drove ford to highest sales???? It sure does!!!! Does it also say the fleet sales are down 67%??? It sure does!!! Does it say anything about the ranger helping sales??? No it doesn't!
Ford Motor Company: January 2009 Sales Figures
By Staff Report
Published: February 4, 2009
STRONG F-SERIES, FUSION SALES DRIVE FORD TO HIGHER RETAIL SHARE FOR FOURTH CONSECUTIVE MONTH
Ford’s F-Series truck and Fusion mid-size sedan helped Ford achieve a fourth consecutive month of retail market share increases
Total Ford, Lincoln and Mercury sales were 39 percent lower in January than a year ago; Fleet sales were 65 percent lower and retail sales to individuals were 27 percent lower
Ford and overall industry sales in January were in line with company expectations; Retail demand appears to be stabilizing
Ford continues to align production and inventories with demand; January inventories totaled 420,000 vehicles, down 156,000 from prior year
By Staff Report
Published: February 4, 2009
STRONG F-SERIES, FUSION SALES DRIVE FORD TO HIGHER RETAIL SHARE FOR FOURTH CONSECUTIVE MONTH
Ford’s F-Series truck and Fusion mid-size sedan helped Ford achieve a fourth consecutive month of retail market share increases
Total Ford, Lincoln and Mercury sales were 39 percent lower in January than a year ago; Fleet sales were 65 percent lower and retail sales to individuals were 27 percent lower
Ford and overall industry sales in January were in line with company expectations; Retail demand appears to be stabilizing
Ford continues to align production and inventories with demand; January inventories totaled 420,000 vehicles, down 156,000 from prior year
#28
01-18-2010
The Ranger has something that the F150 doesn't.... low profit margins. The reason the Ranger won't get updated has to do with that. Ford won't invest the time to put a V8 or a diesel into it because it wont sell. I for one don't think the compact truck warrants a V8. If you really need a V8 power and capabilities, then you don't need a compact. As was said above my post, Ford already builds the vehicle with 4 doors, a bed, a V8, a full frame and is smaller than an F150... and how is that selling? Yeah it's now and it's dead too.
I would like the Ranger to stay close to the same size. Something that slots in between the current model and the Tacoma (i think the Taco is too big). Keep it 4 cylinder and V6 ONLY and leave the body configurations alone except for adding a crew cab model. The 3.5 would be a nice V6 in it tuned to about 250hp. It already makes more than that in other NA applications. I wouldn't have a problem with the 2.0L Ecoboost motor being the base engine, but we know cost issues will prevent that in the fleet truck market. Put a decent NA 4 banger in there for the mileage models and the delivery trucks.
Too bad if they do all of that, it will cost as much as the current Taco. Oh well.
I see your point. why take the time to do that when you'll drive the price up (unless you do it after you buy it which would be stupid if it was brand new). I do want the ranger to stay but they can afford to change it some without retooling for that I'm sure of. At least offer another engine other than a choice of 2 engines( either the 2.3 I4 D.O.H.C or the 4.0 SOHC). They need to do something to change it up a bit that much we agree on.
Why do you think that?
I would like the Ranger to stay close to the same size. Something that slots in between the current model and the Tacoma (i think the Taco is too big). Keep it 4 cylinder and V6 ONLY and leave the body configurations alone except for adding a crew cab model. The 3.5 would be a nice V6 in it tuned to about 250hp. It already makes more than that in other NA applications. I wouldn't have a problem with the 2.0L Ecoboost motor being the base engine, but we know cost issues will prevent that in the fleet truck market. Put a decent NA 4 banger in there for the mileage models and the delivery trucks.
Too bad if they do all of that, it will cost as much as the current Taco. Oh well.
I see your point. why take the time to do that when you'll drive the price up (unless you do it after you buy it which would be stupid if it was brand new). I do want the ranger to stay but they can afford to change it some without retooling for that I'm sure of. At least offer another engine other than a choice of 2 engines( either the 2.3 I4 D.O.H.C or the 4.0 SOHC). They need to do something to change it up a bit that much we agree on.
Why do you think that?
#29
01-18-2010
2009 2008 Change 2009 2008 Change
F-Series 48,209 41,580 15.9 413,625 515,513 -19.8
Ranger 4,503 3,855 16.8 55,600 65,872 -15.6
Its not even close. the F Series destroys the Ranger in anything when it comes to sales.
#30
01-18-2010
Well Trent I just stated what I thought. No reason to attack me for it. I was wrong all you have to is say nope then post your proof. That attcking someone for something is indeed uncalled for dude. That's all you really have to do. If you attack me once more without provocation like you did I'll be reporting you dude. You owe me an apology for attacking me. I fI offended you with my comments then I'm sorry about that.
#32
01-18-2010
Well that was my mistake there on the comment i made ealier. I think that's a sad story about the ranger because I think they're really good trucks and should be doing better than they are is all. It's sad but true.
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#34
01-18-2010
No I got offened when you attacked me. I intend to look up stuff from now yes. but no need to attack someone. I don't mind being prooved wrong because it gives me a change to learn a little bit and be philosophic about it. Just please quit attacking me. It's getting old.
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#39
01-18-2010
If Ford discontinues the Ranger it doesn't mean all the ones still driving will need to be crushed so I assume R/F will still run strong seeing as many have put quite a bit of money into their trucks on here.
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#41
01-18-2010
This site will continue for quite sometime due to the Ranger's that are out there now.
#42
01-18-2010
well yeah considering they made thousands of the trucks sure. I meant will there be a link for it's replacement? and what are they replacing the ranger with?
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#48
01-18-2010
oh ok, you mean like with the Mazda B series trucks which is basicly the same as the ranger. That may be why they're considering getting rid of the ranger because doesn't Ford own Mazda? I'm pretty sure that they purchased Mazda years ago. That may be why the guy at autozone tried to tell me that my Ranger is an import which it is not.
#50
01-18-2010
oh ok, you mean like with the Mazda B series trucks which is basicly the same as the ranger. That may be why they're considering getting rid of the ranger because doesn't Ford own Mazda? I'm pretty sure that they purchased Mazda years ago. That may be why the guy at autozone tried to tell me that my Ranger is an import which it is not.
