German cars
#28
Had an '82 240D with a manual trans, got rid of it with over 365K, but the body was pretty much rotten away to nothing, the powertrain was trouble free except for a dozen or so rear axle shafts and rear wheel bearings.
While it wasn't a bad car, it was slow as a snail and expensive to fix when something did break.
I'd take a Ford over just about any thing out there then or now. The Mercedes was a company car that I had taken over at about 70K, I was the only driver and it got nearly only highway miles on it. While it did ride and handle a lot better than any of my Rangers, it wouldn't haul anything, and I couldn't imagine it ever being able to move a trailer of any type. I do wish that they made a Ranger diesel though in the later years.
While it wasn't a bad car, it was slow as a snail and expensive to fix when something did break.
I'd take a Ford over just about any thing out there then or now. The Mercedes was a company car that I had taken over at about 70K, I was the only driver and it got nearly only highway miles on it. While it did ride and handle a lot better than any of my Rangers, it wouldn't haul anything, and I couldn't imagine it ever being able to move a trailer of any type. I do wish that they made a Ranger diesel though in the later years.
#29
Originally Posted by reelfishin
Had an '82 240D with a manual trans, got rid of it with over 365K, but the body was pretty much rotten away to nothing, the powertrain was trouble free except for a dozen or so rear axle shafts and rear wheel bearings.
While it wasn't a bad car, it was slow as a snail and expensive to fix when something did break.
I'd take a Ford over just about any thing out there then or now. The Mercedes was a company car that I had taken over at about 70K, I was the only driver and it got nearly only highway miles on it. While it did ride and handle a lot better than any of my Rangers, it wouldn't haul anything, and I couldn't imagine it ever being able to move a trailer of any type. I do wish that they made a Ranger diesel though in the later years.
While it wasn't a bad car, it was slow as a snail and expensive to fix when something did break.
I'd take a Ford over just about any thing out there then or now. The Mercedes was a company car that I had taken over at about 70K, I was the only driver and it got nearly only highway miles on it. While it did ride and handle a lot better than any of my Rangers, it wouldn't haul anything, and I couldn't imagine it ever being able to move a trailer of any type. I do wish that they made a Ranger diesel though in the later years.
#31
well volkswagen is the commoners car if any of your know history built by hitler or somebody so that everyone could have a car... aside from reapair costs of German cars id take them over many American cars...BMW and Mercedes are quality vehicles and im sure if you owned them you would say the same... and its not like people havent ever had problems with their American cars, they brake just as easy as alot of other foreign cars...
Subaru FTW lol...
Subaru FTW lol...
#33
I love german cars, but it is not for their reliability. My ranger has never given me any problems and I definately cant say that for the vws Ive owned. There is something about german cars that will always keep me coming back. But I will most likely always have an american backup/daily driver.
#34
I traded in my 202 BMW 330Ci for my current Ranger. It was a nice car, but was not worth the $500/mo to me anymore.
BTW: when the "free" maintenance period was over I took the car in for the 50K major service. It was $1555.00. A friggin oil changes was over $150 because the car held nine quarts and you were only supposed to use synthetic oil. The brake job (fronts only) was over $500 because they bleed and flush the brake lines and replace the front rotors. Then there was the well known problem with the sub frame conncectors coming apart between 50 and 70k miles.
So I said enough for me and sold it. Plus the new body style was coming out soon, so it's best to unload before the change. I paid about $37k for the car and sold it 3 years later for $23k, which is pretty good. THe car was a lot more fun to drive, but in LA, I was just parked on the Freeway most of the time anyways.
BTW: when the "free" maintenance period was over I took the car in for the 50K major service. It was $1555.00. A friggin oil changes was over $150 because the car held nine quarts and you were only supposed to use synthetic oil. The brake job (fronts only) was over $500 because they bleed and flush the brake lines and replace the front rotors. Then there was the well known problem with the sub frame conncectors coming apart between 50 and 70k miles.
So I said enough for me and sold it. Plus the new body style was coming out soon, so it's best to unload before the change. I paid about $37k for the car and sold it 3 years later for $23k, which is pretty good. THe car was a lot more fun to drive, but in LA, I was just parked on the Freeway most of the time anyways.
#35
I LOVE MY VW JETTA I WORK AT JOHN DEERE I KNOW HOW AMERICAN CARS ARE MADE IM IN THE U A W IF IT DOES NOT FIT USE A HAMMER BUY AMERICAN BUY JUNK BUY ONE IMPORT FOR LIFEhttp://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2587440 dumb red necks
#36
#37
wait i heard jaguar has the crappiest record of any luxury cars.......Id take a bmw over an american car anyday of the week. My good friends dad is a master bmw mechanic and he said theyre well built cars and dont complain about the maintance how much it costs because if you can afford a BMW you can afford the maintaince as well!!!!
#39
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Originally Posted by Oh5Edge
Now you all know (deep down) that we in the US of A make crapy cars... I mean Ford and Chevy are good when you are 5 years old or something. And those Japanese and Chinese cars are absolute S*** ... But everyone knows that...
The only good cars come from Germany. I mean look at them: BMW, Mercedes, and even VW. They are engineered down to the smallest detail and I love them...
Gotta go anyway, got to go and cuddle with my teddy bear... Heil all
The only good cars come from Germany. I mean look at them: BMW, Mercedes, and even VW. They are engineered down to the smallest detail and I love them...
Gotta go anyway, got to go and cuddle with my teddy bear... Heil all
your kidding right ?
you have never worked on a audi, vw, benz, bmw have you????????????
these (benz) are the biggest turds on the road and the hardest to fix, parts prices are sky high.
#40
Originally Posted by 2003stealthedge
............. and dont complain about the maintance how much it costs because if you can afford a BMW you can afford the maintaince as well!!!!
Also we used to have a 2002 VW Jetta GLX. The VW was by far, the larges pile of junk I have ever owned. Thank god it was a lease so I could throw the keys at the dealer at the end of 36mos. It was so bad we hired an attorney to envoke the lemon law, and VW squirmed out of it on a techicality. I'll never own a VW/Porsche/Audi as long as I live.
#41
My Mom used to have a BMW 740iL and my Dad once did the math and came to the conclusion that it cost $1 per mile in service fees to keep the car on the road. He, nor I, will ever own a BMW again.
He now has a VW and is on tranny #2, and there have been a lot of other little problems that I can't think of at the moment, and it's only getting worse.
Personally, I will only own Ford or GM trucks. Everything else will most likely be a Jap.
He now has a VW and is on tranny #2, and there have been a lot of other little problems that I can't think of at the moment, and it's only getting worse.
Personally, I will only own Ford or GM trucks. Everything else will most likely be a Jap.
#42
A quote from CNN.com:
"Only one European car, the Mini Cooper, made the "Most Reliable" list. Of the "Least Reliable" cars, 19 of the 45 are European models."
Full article here:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/AUTOS/11/08/...rss_topstories
"Only one European car, the Mini Cooper, made the "Most Reliable" list. Of the "Least Reliable" cars, 19 of the 45 are European models."
Full article here:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/AUTOS/11/08/...rss_topstories
#43
Originally Posted by Msl747
A quote from CNN.com:
"Only one European car, the Mini Cooper, made the "Most Reliable" list. Of the "Least Reliable" cars, 19 of the 45 are European models."
Full article here:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/AUTOS/11/08/...rss_topstories
"Only one European car, the Mini Cooper, made the "Most Reliable" list. Of the "Least Reliable" cars, 19 of the 45 are European models."
Full article here:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/AUTOS/11/08/...rss_topstories
#44
#46
Mini's come n/a and supercharged.. I do think they are cool little cars. I agree with others about the european cars, been through an experience with VW, they ended up fixing stuff for free on my sisters '99 beetle everytime we had to take it in. But maybe european auto makers just have more lemons than good apples compared to the rest- as in you'll eventually find one that can be reliable.
#50
What years were the Mercedes that had the frames rust out from underneath them? A friend of mine's mother bought one. Saved a long time for it cause always wanted a 'Cedes. Never fails does it.... the one she buys has the bad frame.
Nicest looking car to me would be Hudson Hornet.
The best engine built would be the Knight sleeve valve.
Of course in Irvine, CA when I visited my daughters, there were many nice cars. GT40, that new Bentley, and many more. I'm just the kind of person that figures a car or truck gets you from point "A" to point "B". To each there own. But I prefer American cars.
Nicest looking car to me would be Hudson Hornet.
The best engine built would be the Knight sleeve valve.
Of course in Irvine, CA when I visited my daughters, there were many nice cars. GT40, that new Bentley, and many more. I'm just the kind of person that figures a car or truck gets you from point "A" to point "B". To each there own. But I prefer American cars.
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