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Unconfirmed Legal Status of Train Horns

so i lookup up the laws and didnt find any exact answer. so i emailed the ohio state highway patrol and they basically sent me the laws lmao here it is what do you guys think...i think theyre ok in ohio...

>>> On 9/24/2008 at 12:14 PM, in message <[email protected]>,
Timothy Karwatske wrote:
> Thank you for your question regarding horns on motor vehicles. One of the
> missions of the Ohio State Highway Patrol is to reduce injuries and
> fatalities by making Ohio's roadways safer.
>
> The following Ohio Revised Section applies to motor vehicle horns.
>
> 4513.21 Horns, sirens, and warning devices.
> (A) Every motor vehicle or trackless trolley when operated upon a highway
> shall be equipped with a horn which is in good working order and capable of
> emitting sound audible, under normal conditions, from a distance of not less
> than two hundred feet.
>
> No motor vehicle or trackless trolley shall be equipped with, nor shall any
> person use upon a vehicle, any siren, whistle, or bell. Any vehicle may be
> equipped with a theft alarm signal device which shall be so arranged that it
> cannot be used as an ordinary warning signal. Every emergency vehicle shall
> be equipped with a siren, whistle, or bell, capable of emitting sound audible
> under normal conditions from a distance of not less than five hundred feet
> and of a type approved by the director of public safety. Such equipment shall
> not be used except when such vehicle is operated in response to an emergency
> call or is in the immediate pursuit of an actual or suspected violator of the
> law, in which case the driver of the emergency vehicle shall sound such
> equipment when it is necessary to warn pedestrians and other drivers of the
> approach thereof.
>
> (B) Whoever violates this section shall be punished as provided in section
> 4513.99 of the Revised Code.
>
> Effective Date: 01-01-2004
>
> The following Ohio Administrative Code offers a little more information.
>
> 4501:2-1-17 Motor vehicle equipment standards for horn and warning devices.
> (A) Every motor vehicle shall be equipped with a horn which is in good
> working order and capable of emitting sound audible, under normal conditions,
> for a distance of not less than two hundred feet. No motor vehicle, except a
> public safety vehicle or an emergency vehicle, shall be equipped with any
> siren, whistle or bell.
>
> (B) Every public safety vehicle or emergency vehicle shall be equipped with
> a siren, whistle, or bell, capable of emitting sound audible under normal
> conditions for a distance of not less than five hundred feet and of a type
> approved by the director of public safety. (Vehicles in-service prior to
> December 1, 2007)
>
> (C) Effective December 1, 2007, the type of siren approved by the director
> of public safety shall meet SAE Standard J 1849 (revised 7/2002). For any
> public safety vehicle or emergency vehicle placed into service on or after
> December 1, 2007 with a siren, the siren shall meet SAE Standard J 1849
> (revised 7/2002).
>
> (D) The horn as required in section 4513.21 of the Revised Code shall be
> clearly identifiable as a motor vehicle horn. The device for operating the
> horn shall be properly marked meeting Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard
> (FMVSS) 571.101 of the Code of Federal Regulations (C.F.R.) cited as 49
> C.F.R. 571.101 (revised effective 9/1/2006) regarding controls, telltales,
> and indictors and shall be located so it may be easily controlled by the
> driver.
>
> Effective: 10/20/2007
>
> R.C. 119.032 review dates: 03/30/2011
>
> Promulgated Under: 119.03
>
> Statutory Authority: R.C. 4513.02
>
> Rule Amplifies: R.C. 4513.02
>
> Prior Effective Dates: 1/15/68, 6/18/06
>
>
>
> Sergeant Timothy J. Karwatske
> Public Affairs Unit
> 1970 W. Broad St. Columbus, OH 43223
> (614) 752-2792
> (614) 752-8410 Fax
>
> >>> wwwOHP 9/22/2008 8:51 AM >>>
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yep ur straight
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u kno wat i think...he knows theyre legal-but despises them. therefore he doesnt want to tell me straight up that theyre legal lol
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it doesnt say "your truck cant have trian horns" so id say your good lol
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why would you even bother sending them an email asking them, obviously they are illegal if they are extremely loud and do not belong on a motor vehicle unless its some how considered a train?

Common sense there was no need to email them but im guessing your parents made you.
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seriously lmao
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i could care less if they are illlegal er not

im gonna have them,
and im GONNA blow the **** out of them whenever i want

=]

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i could care less if they are illlegal er not

im gonna have them,
and im GONNA blow the **** out of them whenever i want

=]

thank you
blow them in front of a cop see what that gets you, then you can tell him as hes writing you a ticket that you had to have them and were going to blow them whenever you want to.
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as long as there isnt troll around your good, i was mall crawlin lol and got a ticket for my system and exhaust being too loud.

i was disturbing the peace? whatever
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as long as there isnt troll around your good, i was mall crawlin lol and got a ticket for my system and exhaust being too loud.

i was disturbing the peace? whatever
How can you get a ticket at the malls parking lot thats private property
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> (D) The horn as required in section 4513.21 of the Revised Code shall be
> clearly identifiable as a motor vehicle horn. The device for operating the
> horn shall be properly marked meeting Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard
> (FMVSS) 571.101 of the Code of Federal Regulations (C.F.R.) cited as 49
> C.F.R. 571.101 (revised effective 9/1/2006) regarding controls, telltales,
> and indictors and shall be located so it may be easily controlled by the
> driver.
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blow them in front of a cop see what that gets you, then you can tell him as hes writing you a ticket that you had to have them and were going to blow them whenever you want to.
iight, for one, ive already blown them infront of cops!
the local cops thinks its fu**in HILARIOUS! and i do it everyt time i pass them and throw my hand out and wave.
\
and for the other cops, u cant see nothin of mine horn wise, so they never know who the hell did it.

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not in florida apparently the lil motorcycle cop had the right to stop me, but what i dont get is how my 300 rms amp running to 1 12' sub, is too loud. because its not lol.

he didnt like the fact that i left my radio up when he was writing me the ticket though, i figured if i was getting the ticket already id finish my jam.
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iight, for one, ive already blown them infront of cops!
the local cops thinks its fu**in HILARIOUS! and i do it everyt time i pass them and throw my hand out and wave.
\
and for the other cops, u cant see nothin of mine horn wise, so they never know who the hell did it.

noob

lol im sure they do...

lol calling me a noob? You have like a june 2008 date of registration haha I was driving a ranger before you prob hit puberty so if anyone is a noob its you.
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You can/will still get a sound ordinance violation.

By the way the law is written,t here is a lot of gray area. Just because we call them "train HORNS" are they really a "horn" or a siren, etc?

Your still going to get in trouble for them if you blow them around/in hearing range of a P.O.

down here you can't even have them visible anymore...they pull you over for unsafe equipment. their excuse is that they cause accidents, and you can change th elights with them (the lights are sound changing...for the fire/ems horns)
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lol im sure they do...

lol calling me a noob? You have like a june 2008 date of registration haha I was driving a ranger before you prob hit puberty so if anyone is a noob its you.
yea, date i joined this site ********.

how you gonna argue over some damn horns anyways?
get u a set.
then talk ****
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You can/will still get a sound ordinance violation.

By the way the law is written,t here is a lot of gray area. Just because we call them "train HORNS" are they really a "horn" or a siren, etc?

Your still going to get in trouble for them if you blow them around/in hearing range of a P.O.

down here you can't even have them visible anymore...they pull you over for unsafe equipment. their excuse is that they cause accidents, and you can change th elights with them (the lights are sound changing...for the fire/ems horns)
sound changing?
thats awsome!

around here we have a certian strobe the street light picks up and changes
sound ones prolly work wayyy better
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yea, date i joined this site ********.

how you gonna argue over some damn horns anyways?
get u a set.
then talk ****
I have no desire for a set, they are cool and all and have seen the phase from when it first started. I have plenty of friends with train horns on their mini trucks obviously I have been around them. Im not talking **** on them just strictly saying they are illegal and obviously its common sense why, they distract and in some cases can scare someone driving and could cause and accident in a response to such a loud horn going off unexpectedly.
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Use a horn('train' horn or not) when necessary and use it for its purpose, you're good to go.
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whats funny is one time i was drivin down the freeway and someone had a emergency horn hooked up ... you know the ones that sound all like ehhhhhhhhheeeeeetttttttttttttttttt like are on ambulences and **** ... i wonder where to get those.
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from the email they sent you, it sounds like they are more worried about them being to quiet than to loud.

I sold my train horns a year ago, and I've missed them since. I really need to get some new ones.
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whats funny is one time i was drivin down the freeway and someone had a emergency horn hooked up ... you know the ones that sound all like ehhhhhhhhheeeeeetttttttttttttttttt like are on ambulences and **** ... i wonder where to get those.
http://sirennet.com
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iight, for one, ive already blown them infront of cops!
Sup *****! U be phat dawg!

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the local cops thinks its fu**in HILARIOUS! and i do it everyt time i pass them and throw my hand out and wave.
\
and for the other cops, u cant see nothin of mine horn wise, so they never know who the hell did it.

noob
Read this part again..

"No motor vehicle or trackless trolley shall be equipped with, nor shall any
> person use upon a vehicle, any siren, whistle, or bell. "

What exavtly is the DMV Definition of ' Siren ' and ' Horn '
? Are you smart enough or educated enough to know the difference?

Let me give you a clue so you can try and use your one brain-cell and look it up.

Find out what a ' Decible ' is.

Find out how many your factory horn is limited to AND what your ' Train horns ' really qualify as.

If your going to flame back, by all means, be educated about it or you'll look further like an **** when your corrected again.

Stupid n00b.
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Wait a min here.. NC and Florida folks .. Gangsta-Neks?
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just be smart about them!
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