What octane gas?
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I actually get a little better mileage out of the higher octane so its really not a waste of money. My mileage went way down when the gas stations switched to this ethanol blend, so I was thinking maybe by putting a higher octane in it would run smoother. Was getting a bit of a spark knock, but the higher octane smoothed it out. Could have been some bad gas too though
I actually get a little better mileage out of the higher octane so its really not a waste of money. My mileage went way down when the gas stations switched to this ethanol blend, so I was thinking maybe by putting a higher octane in it would run smoother. Was getting a bit of a spark knock, but the higher octane smoothed it out. Could have been some bad gas too though
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I don\'t have a choice, that\'s all we can get around here. All the gas stations get their fuel from the same place and its got ethanol already added. Really sucks cause you have to buy more because of the poor mileage. Can\'t go out of town just to buy gas...
Originally Posted by 04RangerDave
I don\'t run any ethonal
Last edited by Jason8n; 06-12-2011 at 04:00 PM.
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Ethanol produced from corn is stupid. Ethanol in a gas engine is stupid.
Ethanol is a engine designed specifically for E98 or straight ethanol is flippin amazing. Ethanol can be compressed much more then gas, and there for will combust much more violently, therefore producing much more power. Essentially this power comes for the extra compression, but it is much more powerful.
Our trucks are compatible with E10. E10 has been around since the 70's
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Those two engines are completely different designs, nothing the same about them. The 302 is a fractional designed 90 degree V8, the 4.0 is a metric designed 60 degree V6.
That mechanic probably was thinking of the Chevrolet 350cid V8 and the 4.3L V6.
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depends if you start feeling like your truck is miss fireing or sluggish it may be carbon build up so you can put higher octane in like shell 91 and it has cleaner in it and if you use it for about 2500 miles it should clear about 70% of the carbin build up and then you can go back to normal 87 at least thats what i heard in a video from chrisfix
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Revived an old thread
Here's the facts about octane and Ethanol
A gallon of gasoline rated as 87 octane or 93 octane has EXACTLY the same amount of power/energy released when it is burned with correct mix of air, octane is NOT an energy rating
Octane is the amount of 8 carbon chains in the fuel, 8 is a stable chain and less prone to self ignition, i.e. pinging and knocking
Under 8 means the chain has an "open end" which is like a "fuse" that can be lit by heat causing self ignition, pinging and knocking
Compression is HEAT, so engines with higher compression ratios will self ignite 87 octane easier
under 9.4:1 ratio is usually OK for 87 octane, but its at the very edge
9.5:1 and up usually needs higher octane OR...........................a Knock Sensor, that's what Ford did with the 3.0l Vulcan, some years, and the 4.0l SOHC all years
The 4.0l SOHC ran 9.7:1 ratio, so could never run 87 octane as is, the knock sensor allows it to run 87 octane but at a reduction in power because of the change needed in spark timing
So YES, if you run 93 octane in a 4.0l SOHC you would for sure see better power and better MPG, but its not that 93 is better than 87, its the engine design
The 4.0l OHV ran 9.0:1 ratio so no difference between running 87 or 93 octane
Its just science
Ethanol has less energy per gallon, so adding 10% ethanol would lower power output, but it also helps pull WATER out of the gasoline and also prevents freezing of that water in the fuel lines
ALL gasoline has some water in it, if there is too much water it is called "bad gas" that's what bad gas is, unless gasoline has been sitting and evaporating for a few years, then it a different kind of "bad gas", varnish, lol
Water and gasoline can't "bond"/mix, and water is heavier than gasoline so settles to the bottom of gas tanks, where fuel pump sucks up any water first, making engine run poorly at startup, until water is cleared from the tank
Ethanol can bond with water and makes it "burnable", but it also bonds with 6 and 7 carbon chains making them 8 chains so increases "octane" rating, reducing pinging
Octane Boost or HEET are Ethanol additives to get rid of extra water in the tank or fix lower than 87 octane fuel
Here's the facts about octane and Ethanol
A gallon of gasoline rated as 87 octane or 93 octane has EXACTLY the same amount of power/energy released when it is burned with correct mix of air, octane is NOT an energy rating
Octane is the amount of 8 carbon chains in the fuel, 8 is a stable chain and less prone to self ignition, i.e. pinging and knocking
Under 8 means the chain has an "open end" which is like a "fuse" that can be lit by heat causing self ignition, pinging and knocking
Compression is HEAT, so engines with higher compression ratios will self ignite 87 octane easier
under 9.4:1 ratio is usually OK for 87 octane, but its at the very edge
9.5:1 and up usually needs higher octane OR...........................a Knock Sensor, that's what Ford did with the 3.0l Vulcan, some years, and the 4.0l SOHC all years
The 4.0l SOHC ran 9.7:1 ratio, so could never run 87 octane as is, the knock sensor allows it to run 87 octane but at a reduction in power because of the change needed in spark timing
So YES, if you run 93 octane in a 4.0l SOHC you would for sure see better power and better MPG, but its not that 93 is better than 87, its the engine design
The 4.0l OHV ran 9.0:1 ratio so no difference between running 87 or 93 octane
Its just science
Ethanol has less energy per gallon, so adding 10% ethanol would lower power output, but it also helps pull WATER out of the gasoline and also prevents freezing of that water in the fuel lines
ALL gasoline has some water in it, if there is too much water it is called "bad gas" that's what bad gas is, unless gasoline has been sitting and evaporating for a few years, then it a different kind of "bad gas", varnish, lol
Water and gasoline can't "bond"/mix, and water is heavier than gasoline so settles to the bottom of gas tanks, where fuel pump sucks up any water first, making engine run poorly at startup, until water is cleared from the tank
Ethanol can bond with water and makes it "burnable", but it also bonds with 6 and 7 carbon chains making them 8 chains so increases "octane" rating, reducing pinging
Octane Boost or HEET are Ethanol additives to get rid of extra water in the tank or fix lower than 87 octane fuel
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