HVAC fan only works on high, changed blower motor resistor, didnt fix it
#1
#2
This is the OP, I got logged out and lost my password
So I did some more reading and people say the plug could be the issue, with rust and corrosion. I checked the terminals of the old resistor and 2 of them were very rusty. So I pulled the plug off, and noticed that the wires were wrapping in electrical tape. I undid the tape and it turns out the plug had already been replaced and they just hand twisted the wires together and taped it. Nice
So I wire nutted the wires tightly just to make sure it would work before I soldered it all up, and it still didn't work. I took the plug off again, cleaned the connections with IPA and Deoxit, plugged it back in, still no dice. I am assuming at this point the corrosion might have ruined the connector internally, so I ordered a new connector off Amazon. It will be here tomorrow, I will wire nut that up and test it and it if works I will properly solder and heat shrink the connections.
If a new resistor and a new connector don't fix it, what else could it be?
So I did some more reading and people say the plug could be the issue, with rust and corrosion. I checked the terminals of the old resistor and 2 of them were very rusty. So I pulled the plug off, and noticed that the wires were wrapping in electrical tape. I undid the tape and it turns out the plug had already been replaced and they just hand twisted the wires together and taped it. Nice
So I wire nutted the wires tightly just to make sure it would work before I soldered it all up, and it still didn't work. I took the plug off again, cleaned the connections with IPA and Deoxit, plugged it back in, still no dice. I am assuming at this point the corrosion might have ruined the connector internally, so I ordered a new connector off Amazon. It will be here tomorrow, I will wire nut that up and test it and it if works I will properly solder and heat shrink the connections.
If a new resistor and a new connector don't fix it, what else could it be?
#3
RF Veteran
iTrader: (1)
Blower motors get 12volts directly(key on)
Fan "speed" is done via Ground connection
Max speed is a direct ground from the cab, by-passes resistor block
So if you have Max speed but no lower speeds then its either the resistor block OR the Fan switch
You don't mention the YEAR of the Ranger, always good to include that with questions
But all years basically work the same way
1994 diagram below
Fan gets 12v from the fuse(9)
All speed settings are from Cab Ground(G200)
As seen HIGH bypasses resistor block
Other speeds Ground thru 1, 2 or 3 resistors in series, 3 resistors is highest resistance so lowest speed, as seen
You can check the resistor block connector wires with OHM Meter, all should be 0 ohms to ground when that speed is selected in cab
If not then switch is the issue
Fan "speed" is done via Ground connection
Max speed is a direct ground from the cab, by-passes resistor block
So if you have Max speed but no lower speeds then its either the resistor block OR the Fan switch
You don't mention the YEAR of the Ranger, always good to include that with questions
But all years basically work the same way
1994 diagram below
Fan gets 12v from the fuse(9)
All speed settings are from Cab Ground(G200)
As seen HIGH bypasses resistor block
Other speeds Ground thru 1, 2 or 3 resistors in series, 3 resistors is highest resistance so lowest speed, as seen
You can check the resistor block connector wires with OHM Meter, all should be 0 ohms to ground when that speed is selected in cab
If not then switch is the issue
#4
Blower motors get 12volts directly(key on)
Fan "speed" is done via Ground connection
Max speed is a direct ground from the cab, by-passes resistor block
So if you have Max speed but no lower speeds then its either the resistor block OR the Fan switch
You don't mention the YEAR of the Ranger, always good to include that with questions
But all years basically work the same way
1994 diagram below
Fan gets 12v from the fuse(9)
All speed settings are from Cab Ground(G200)
As seen HIGH bypasses resistor block
Other speeds Ground thru 1, 2 or 3 resistors in series, 3 resistors is highest resistance so lowest speed, as seen
You can check the resistor block connector wires with OHM Meter, all should be 0 ohms to ground when that speed is selected in cab
If not then switch is the issue
Fan "speed" is done via Ground connection
Max speed is a direct ground from the cab, by-passes resistor block
So if you have Max speed but no lower speeds then its either the resistor block OR the Fan switch
You don't mention the YEAR of the Ranger, always good to include that with questions
But all years basically work the same way
1994 diagram below
Fan gets 12v from the fuse(9)
All speed settings are from Cab Ground(G200)
As seen HIGH bypasses resistor block
Other speeds Ground thru 1, 2 or 3 resistors in series, 3 resistors is highest resistance so lowest speed, as seen
You can check the resistor block connector wires with OHM Meter, all should be 0 ohms to ground when that speed is selected in cab
If not then switch is the issue
I am leaning towards the contacts in the plug being the issue since it had been replaced before and two of the terminals on the old resistor were heavily rusted, and if they are rusted, the contacts on that plug are rusted too. I am going to replace the plug when that shows up, and if that doesn't help I will Ohms test the wires when it is set to the various modes and see if it is a switch issue. But honestly, if I replace the resistor block, and replace the plug, and it still doesn't work, looking at the schematic I don't see what else it could be except the switch at that point.
Edit: 2002 Ranger
Last edited by sluggerbaloney; 11-09-2022 at 11:25 AM.
#5
RF Veteran
iTrader: (1)
2002 wiring diagram below
Pretty much the same as most Fords
Yes, the connector and wires on the Resistor assembly must be able to pass up to 40amps(fuse rating) same as the Positive wires for the motor
People often think only the positive side needs to carry the high Amps, not so, negative(ground) must carry the exact same Amps for the circuit to work as designed
If corroded or damaged connection(ground or positive) can only pass 5 amps then no motor
Pretty much the same as most Fords
Yes, the connector and wires on the Resistor assembly must be able to pass up to 40amps(fuse rating) same as the Positive wires for the motor
People often think only the positive side needs to carry the high Amps, not so, negative(ground) must carry the exact same Amps for the circuit to work as designed
If corroded or damaged connection(ground or positive) can only pass 5 amps then no motor
#6
So I swapped the plug out. Here is what is happening. I will put a number between 1 and 5 indicate how much air is blowing
Unless this is how it should work? I never owned a Ranger before, are the second and third fan settings supposed to be very weak and very similar and way weaker than max?
Edit: Looking at the schematic, if the Med - Lo and Med - Hi wires were shorting to ground, they would act just like the Low setting, right? If that's the case, I guess they could be shorting to ground in the switch itself, and if that were happening, if I am reading the schematic correctly, settings 1, 2, and 3 would ALL be Low, and Max would be Max, which is how it feels. I'm going to replace the switch (its showing up tomm) and see if that fixs it, if not I will measure DC power as I cycle through the settings and if they are unchanged then that would seem to indicate it is shorting to ground somewhere along the wire run?
- On the first setting, I get a little bit of air coming out (1)
- On the second setting, it kinda feels like a TINY little bit more air is coming out (1.25 - 1.5)
- On the third setting, it feel unchanged from the second setting (1.25 - 1.5)
- On the max setting, it blows like you would expect, MUCH more than the previous settings (5)
Unless this is how it should work? I never owned a Ranger before, are the second and third fan settings supposed to be very weak and very similar and way weaker than max?
Edit: Looking at the schematic, if the Med - Lo and Med - Hi wires were shorting to ground, they would act just like the Low setting, right? If that's the case, I guess they could be shorting to ground in the switch itself, and if that were happening, if I am reading the schematic correctly, settings 1, 2, and 3 would ALL be Low, and Max would be Max, which is how it feels. I'm going to replace the switch (its showing up tomm) and see if that fixs it, if not I will measure DC power as I cycle through the settings and if they are unchanged then that would seem to indicate it is shorting to ground somewhere along the wire run?
Last edited by sluggerbaloney; 11-09-2022 at 05:02 PM.
#7
RF Veteran
iTrader: (1)
If you look at the 2002 diagram you will see the Resistor Block(bottom right) has its own Ground wire(G105) which is for Low Speed, there is no OFF setting on speed switch
Low is not a setting just a position of the ****
So Fan is always grounded, in Low Speed, with key on, other speeds just change the resistance, but none cut the ground, i.e. no OFF
Med. low and med. high, do have wires that go to resistor block, so they Ground those resistors from Cab ground(G201)
High by-passes the resistor block and uses G201 so you know that's good
And since you have Low you know G105 is good as well
There is a big difference from low to med. low, and from med. low to med. high, as far as air flow, no guessing needed
Get an OHM Meter and unplug the resistor connector and test the two wires for med. low and med. high, should see 0 OHMs on that wire when is selected in the cab
1995 and up Fan OFF is done by the Mode/Vent switch, when its in the OFF position 12volts to fan is cut, that's the only OFF for the blower fan, just FYI
Low is not a setting just a position of the ****
So Fan is always grounded, in Low Speed, with key on, other speeds just change the resistance, but none cut the ground, i.e. no OFF
Med. low and med. high, do have wires that go to resistor block, so they Ground those resistors from Cab ground(G201)
High by-passes the resistor block and uses G201 so you know that's good
And since you have Low you know G105 is good as well
There is a big difference from low to med. low, and from med. low to med. high, as far as air flow, no guessing needed
Get an OHM Meter and unplug the resistor connector and test the two wires for med. low and med. high, should see 0 OHMs on that wire when is selected in the cab
1995 and up Fan OFF is done by the Mode/Vent switch, when its in the OFF position 12volts to fan is cut, that's the only OFF for the blower fan, just FYI
#8
If you look at the 2002 diagram you will see the Resistor Block(bottom right) has its own Ground wire(G105) which is for Low Speed, there is no OFF setting on speed switch
Low is not a setting just a position of the ****
So Fan is always grounded, in Low Speed, with key on, other speeds just change the resistance, but none cut the ground, i.e. no OFF
Med. low and med. high, do have wires that go to resistor block, so they Ground those resistors from Cab ground(G201)
Low is not a setting just a position of the ****
So Fan is always grounded, in Low Speed, with key on, other speeds just change the resistance, but none cut the ground, i.e. no OFF
Med. low and med. high, do have wires that go to resistor block, so they Ground those resistors from Cab ground(G201)
And just to make sure I am visualizing this correctly, the black wire I connected to the resistor from the wiring loom under the hood, that's G105, and G201 will be a different ground wire back in the dash behind the HVAC controls, correct?
Get an OHM Meter and unplug the resistor connector and test the two wires for med. low and med. high, should see 0 OHMs on that wire when is selected in the cab
Last edited by sluggerbaloney; 11-09-2022 at 09:01 PM.
#9
RF Veteran
iTrader: (1)
When key is on and Mode/Vent switch is in any position except OFF, the blower motor gets 12volts
The resistor block is always Grounded by its black wire(G105), but thru 3 resistors, which would be Low speed
If the speed **** in the dash was set to med. low then resistor block has a NEW ground path and only thru 2 resistors, so higher fan speed than Low, NEW ground path uses G201 in the cab
Med. high changes to NEW ground path thru 1 resistor, so even higher speed, also use G201
High speed by-passes the resistor block entirely, no resistors, it's a direct ground for blower motor, via G201
So if low, med. low, and med. high all seem to be the same speed, then med. low and med. high wires, or switch contacts, are not giving a NEW ground path in resistor block
Medium low setting
12v-----------blower motor-----------------resistor-----resistor----------------------------------med. low(cab switch)---------------G105(cab ground)
The resistor block is always Grounded by its black wire(G105), but thru 3 resistors, which would be Low speed
If the speed **** in the dash was set to med. low then resistor block has a NEW ground path and only thru 2 resistors, so higher fan speed than Low, NEW ground path uses G201 in the cab
Med. high changes to NEW ground path thru 1 resistor, so even higher speed, also use G201
High speed by-passes the resistor block entirely, no resistors, it's a direct ground for blower motor, via G201
So if low, med. low, and med. high all seem to be the same speed, then med. low and med. high wires, or switch contacts, are not giving a NEW ground path in resistor block
Medium low setting
12v-----------blower motor-----------------resistor-----resistor----------------------------------med. low(cab switch)---------------G105(cab ground)
#10
When key is on and Mode/Vent switch is in any position except OFF, the blower motor gets 12volts
The resistor block is always Grounded by its black wire(G105), but thru 3 resistors, which would be Low speed
If the speed **** in the dash was set to med. low then resistor block has a NEW ground path and only thru 2 resistors, so higher fan speed than Low, NEW ground path uses G201 in the cab
Med. high changes to NEW ground path thru 1 resistor, so even higher speed, also use G201
High speed by-passes the resistor block entirely, no resistors, it's a direct ground for blower motor, via G201
So if low, med. low, and med. high all seem to be the same speed, then med. low and med. high wires, or switch contacts, are not giving a NEW ground path in resistor block
Medium low setting
12v-----------blower motor-----------------resistor-----resistor----------------------------------med. low(cab switch)---------------G105(cab ground)
The resistor block is always Grounded by its black wire(G105), but thru 3 resistors, which would be Low speed
If the speed **** in the dash was set to med. low then resistor block has a NEW ground path and only thru 2 resistors, so higher fan speed than Low, NEW ground path uses G201 in the cab
Med. high changes to NEW ground path thru 1 resistor, so even higher speed, also use G201
High speed by-passes the resistor block entirely, no resistors, it's a direct ground for blower motor, via G201
So if low, med. low, and med. high all seem to be the same speed, then med. low and med. high wires, or switch contacts, are not giving a NEW ground path in resistor block
Medium low setting
12v-----------blower motor-----------------resistor-----resistor----------------------------------med. low(cab switch)---------------G105(cab ground)
So I took readings. Under the hood, the wires coming from the cab were reading around 40 kOhm's when the respective setting was selected inside the cab. So that is wrong since you said it should be 0 Ohms. On thing though, I tested to the body of the truck, should I be testing to the black wire in the wire loom instead?
So I popped the radio and the bezel off, and took out the switch. I opened the switch up and there was a good bit of dirt mixed in with the grease they have in there, so I thought maybe it was dirty contacts. So I cleaned it all up, reassembled the switch, and tested for continuity between the various modes. And continuity showed the various contacts connecting to what they should be connecting to.
I plug the switch back in to the truck and ... no change. First three setting are all low, and then max. I visually inspected the wires and did not see any cuts, breaks, or things that would cause a short.
If I manually shorted (using jumper tweezers) between the power line coming into the switch in the cab (orange/black), and the terminal for the med-lo or med-hi settings, that should make the fan run at those speeds, right?
So if low, med. low, and med. high all seem to be the same speed, then med. low and med. high wires, or switch contacts, are not giving a NEW ground path in resistor block
Last edited by sluggerbaloney; 11-10-2022 at 01:36 PM.
#11
Ok, this official makes zero sense. New switch came in, and no change. So I hav changd the Resistor Block, the plug going to the resistor block, and the switch, and it did absolutly nothing.
None of the resistance measurements make any sense. I don't know which ground to use, I think I was using a proper engine ground (I got continuity between the black wire and that spot on the engine) and when on low, I was getting 2-3 Ohms resistance. Which according to RonD is wrong. I switched to the yellow green wire and did the same thing, but I forget what result I got. I know at some point I got 0 Ohms where I shouldn't have because I wasn't on the corresponding wire to the fan setting it was on.
Regardless, there is nothing else to replace. So what now?
None of the resistance measurements make any sense. I don't know which ground to use, I think I was using a proper engine ground (I got continuity between the black wire and that spot on the engine) and when on low, I was getting 2-3 Ohms resistance. Which according to RonD is wrong. I switched to the yellow green wire and did the same thing, but I forget what result I got. I know at some point I got 0 Ohms where I shouldn't have because I wasn't on the corresponding wire to the fan setting it was on.
Regardless, there is nothing else to replace. So what now?
#12
RF Veteran
iTrader: (1)
Yes, you could use the black wire(G105) on the resistor block connector as the Ground to test OHMs from the switch wires(G201), so OHMs between 2 grounds should be 0
0 ohms is what you should see, use lowest OHM setting on meter
Continuity only means wire is not broken, could have high OHMs
No sure of exact ohm rating on the resistors in the block so this is just an example
If each resistor in the block is 100 ohms then Low speed has 300 ohms resistance. 3 resistors
Med. low would have 200 ohms resistance
Med. high would have 100 ohms resistance
High, 0 ohms, no resistance
If med. low and med high wires themselves had 400ohms resistance then Ground path would stay with the Black wire, low speed, with 300 ohm resistance
Electricity always travels the path of least resistance
0 ohms is what you should see, use lowest OHM setting on meter
Continuity only means wire is not broken, could have high OHMs
No sure of exact ohm rating on the resistors in the block so this is just an example
If each resistor in the block is 100 ohms then Low speed has 300 ohms resistance. 3 resistors
Med. low would have 200 ohms resistance
Med. high would have 100 ohms resistance
High, 0 ohms, no resistance
If med. low and med high wires themselves had 400ohms resistance then Ground path would stay with the Black wire, low speed, with 300 ohm resistance
Electricity always travels the path of least resistance
#13
Yes, you could use the black wire(G105) on the resistor block connector as the Ground to test OHMs from the switch wires(G201), so OHMs between 2 grounds should be 0
0 ohms is what you should see, use lowest OHM setting on meter
Continuity only means wire is not broken, could have high OHMs
No sure of exact ohm rating on the resistors in the block so this is just an example
If each resistor in the block is 100 ohms then Low speed has 300 ohms resistance. 3 resistors
Med. low would have 200 ohms resistance
Med. high would have 100 ohms resistance
High, 0 ohms, no resistance
If med. low and med high wires themselves had 400ohms resistance then Ground path would stay with the Black wire, low speed, with 300 ohm resistance
Electricity always travels the path of least resistance
0 ohms is what you should see, use lowest OHM setting on meter
Continuity only means wire is not broken, could have high OHMs
No sure of exact ohm rating on the resistors in the block so this is just an example
If each resistor in the block is 100 ohms then Low speed has 300 ohms resistance. 3 resistors
Med. low would have 200 ohms resistance
Med. high would have 100 ohms resistance
High, 0 ohms, no resistance
If med. low and med high wires themselves had 400ohms resistance then Ground path would stay with the Black wire, low speed, with 300 ohm resistance
Electricity always travels the path of least resistance
Well I didn't do that :)
I put my meter on continuity and put one probe on the Yellow/Red (Med Hi) wire that runs to the cab switch, and started poking around the engine bay until I heard a beep, figuring that would be a ground connection. I got a nice solid beep off the alternator housing so used that as a ground.
I started the truck up, and put the blower on Low. It blew on low. I then grounded the yellow/red wire from the cab switch to the alternator housing. Nothing happened. Although now that I think about it, shouldn't I have grounded the yellow/red wire going to the resistor block instead?
For that Ohm test, could you be very specific on what connections to test? Is this correct (Using your "100 Ohms per resistor" assumption)
Black wire connecting to cab switch < - > Black wire connecting to resistor = should be 0 Ohms
Black wire connecting to cab switch < - > Med-Lo wire connection to resistor = 100 Ohms if fan is not set to Med Low, 0 Ohms if fan is set to Med Lo
Black wire connecting to cab switch < - > Med-Hi wire connection to resistor = 200 Ohms if fan is not set to Med Hi, 0 Ohms if fan is set to Med Hi
Is that the right test? Also, given tat I have replaced the resistor block, plug, AND switch, why would it still be failing? Would it be most likely I just got a bum resistor block sent to me?
#14
And just to level set what is known, the only things in the circuit are power, the resistors, and 2 ground points, G105 and G201.
But literally ever connection in the circuit is brand new. New switch, new plug, new resistor block, so where could it be broken?
- The blower motor is getting power, so I know the fuse and relay are working, or the fan wouldn't spin
- I know the blower blows on MAX, so I know the G201 ground point is good, because on Max, the power just goes right to that, and it works.
- I know the blower blows on Low, so I know the G105 ground point is good, and I know all three resistors are in place, because on Low, the power goes through all 3 resistors and goes to G105 and blows low.
But literally ever connection in the circuit is brand new. New switch, new plug, new resistor block, so where could it be broken?
#15
RF Veteran
iTrader: (1)
New just means NEVER EVER tested, not "tested and works", so grain of salt on ALL "new" parts
You test resistor block Connector, while it is unplugged, key off
Set OHM Meter to 200 or its lowest setting
Touch the two meter probes together, should see 0 ohms(direct connection), this tests if the meter is working correctly
Put 1 probe on black wire(on connector)
1 Probe on the wire being tested, i.e. med. low or med. high, switch in the cab needs to be on matching setting
Should see 0 ohms
A direct connection between the two ground points thru the speed switch
Yes, both ground points are working or you wouldn't have both Low speed and High speed
You test resistor block Connector, while it is unplugged, key off
Set OHM Meter to 200 or its lowest setting
Touch the two meter probes together, should see 0 ohms(direct connection), this tests if the meter is working correctly
Put 1 probe on black wire(on connector)
1 Probe on the wire being tested, i.e. med. low or med. high, switch in the cab needs to be on matching setting
Should see 0 ohms
A direct connection between the two ground points thru the speed switch
Yes, both ground points are working or you wouldn't have both Low speed and High speed
#16
New just means NEVER EVER tested, not "tested and works", so grain of salt on ALL "new" parts
You test resistor block Connector, while it is unplugged, key off
Set OHM Meter to 200 or its lowest setting
Touch the two meter probes together, should see 0 ohms(direct connection), this tests if the meter is working correctly
Put 1 probe on black wire(on connector)
1 Probe on the wire being tested, i.e. med. low or med. high, switch in the cab needs to be on matching setting
Should see 0 ohms
A direct connection between the two ground points thru the speed switch
Yes, both ground points are working or you wouldn't have both Low speed and High speed
You test resistor block Connector, while it is unplugged, key off
Set OHM Meter to 200 or its lowest setting
Touch the two meter probes together, should see 0 ohms(direct connection), this tests if the meter is working correctly
Put 1 probe on black wire(on connector)
1 Probe on the wire being tested, i.e. med. low or med. high, switch in the cab needs to be on matching setting
Should see 0 ohms
A direct connection between the two ground points thru the speed switch
Yes, both ground points are working or you wouldn't have both Low speed and High speed
If I put the cab setting on low, then go under the hood, and connect the Yellow wire to the Black wire on the resistor block, it should switch to Med Hi, right? And if it does that, that proves the resistor block and resistor plug are working fine, and the issue is somewhere before that, which would be the switch in the cab, or somewhere along the wire.
#17
RF Veteran
iTrader: (1)
#18
#19
The mystery continues
I turned on the truck, and put the fan on low. I touched the Yellow/Red wire to the black wire under the hood, and nothing changed. It kept blowing on Low. Then, with the ground under the hood still disconnected, I ran through the settings, and it STILL WAS RUNNING ON LOW. The ground wire coming off the resistor block was DISCONNECTED.
I turned everything off, and unplugged the connector from the resistor block I then took the plug from out of the cab switch, and checked continuity and resistance between all 4 connections. All four wires showed continuity and minimal resistance (1-2 Ohms). So there is no break between the wires going from the switch to the resistor block.
I happened to have a spare resistor block (it came with my new plug), so I swapped it out. No change, Low, Med Lo and Med Hi work as Low, Max works on Max.
So at this point we have a brand new switch, TWO brand new resistor blocks, a brand new resistor plug, continuity between all the wires, and confirmed power to the motor, and (supposedly) confirmed connection to both grounds. But it STILL doesn't work.
Is this beyond hope?
I turned on the truck, and put the fan on low. I touched the Yellow/Red wire to the black wire under the hood, and nothing changed. It kept blowing on Low. Then, with the ground under the hood still disconnected, I ran through the settings, and it STILL WAS RUNNING ON LOW. The ground wire coming off the resistor block was DISCONNECTED.
I turned everything off, and unplugged the connector from the resistor block I then took the plug from out of the cab switch, and checked continuity and resistance between all 4 connections. All four wires showed continuity and minimal resistance (1-2 Ohms). So there is no break between the wires going from the switch to the resistor block.
I happened to have a spare resistor block (it came with my new plug), so I swapped it out. No change, Low, Med Lo and Med Hi work as Low, Max works on Max.
So at this point we have a brand new switch, TWO brand new resistor blocks, a brand new resistor plug, continuity between all the wires, and confirmed power to the motor, and (supposedly) confirmed connection to both grounds. But it STILL doesn't work.
Is this beyond hope?
#20
One thing I noticed when I was working on something totally unrelated is that there looks to be a broken ground strap, underneath the passenger side door underneath the truck. I see the terminals but the strap is torn. I wonder if that is related to G201, and if the only ground that is actually on place is G105, which is always Low?
#21
RF Veteran
iTrader: (1)
According to the diagram Low speed would be off if resistor block ground was disconnected
Does blower motor run with resistor block unplugged?
It shouldn't
If it runs with resistor block unplugged then blower is getting a weak(high resistance) ground from somewhere else
Does HIGH work with resistor block unplugged?
It should, as it by-passes resistor block
Does blower motor run with resistor block unplugged?
It shouldn't
If it runs with resistor block unplugged then blower is getting a weak(high resistance) ground from somewhere else
Does HIGH work with resistor block unplugged?
It should, as it by-passes resistor block
#22
According to the diagram Low speed would be off if resistor block ground was disconnected
Does blower motor run with resistor block unplugged?
It shouldn't
If it runs with resistor block unplugged then blower is getting a weak(high resistance) ground from somewhere else
Does HIGH work with resistor block unplugged?
It should, as it by-passes resistor block
Does blower motor run with resistor block unplugged?
It shouldn't
If it runs with resistor block unplugged then blower is getting a weak(high resistance) ground from somewhere else
Does HIGH work with resistor block unplugged?
It should, as it by-passes resistor block
I can try that.
If I grounded the yellow/red wire coming from the resistor block directly to the negative terminal of the battery, that should run the fan at Med/Hi, right?
Also, could a problem with the blower motor itself cause these issues?
#23
RF Veteran
iTrader: (1)
Yes, a problem with blower motor could have those symptoms, long shot but not a no shot
Its a 12volt DC motor, so speed can be variable based on Voltage passing thru it
In this setup the negative side(ground) is used to restrict voltage passing thru the motor
So maybe your HIGH speed is NOT as high as it should be because of internal resistance in the motor itself
Unplug the 2 wire connector for blower motor
Put OHM meter on each wire going to the motor
Should see under 1 OHM, 0.5 ohm is expected
Its a 12volt DC motor, so speed can be variable based on Voltage passing thru it
In this setup the negative side(ground) is used to restrict voltage passing thru the motor
So maybe your HIGH speed is NOT as high as it should be because of internal resistance in the motor itself
Unplug the 2 wire connector for blower motor
Put OHM meter on each wire going to the motor
Should see under 1 OHM, 0.5 ohm is expected
#24
New just means NEVER EVER tested, not "tested and works", so grain of salt on ALL "new" parts
You test resistor block Connector, while it is unplugged, key off
Set OHM Meter to 200 or its lowest setting
Touch the two meter probes together, should see 0 ohms(direct connection), this tests if the meter is working correctly
Put 1 probe on black wire(on connector)
1 Probe on the wire being tested, i.e. med. low or med. high, switch in the cab needs to be on matching setting
Should see 0 ohms
A direct connection between the two ground points thru the speed switch
Yes, both ground points are working or you wouldn't have both Low speed and High speed
You test resistor block Connector, while it is unplugged, key off
Set OHM Meter to 200 or its lowest setting
Touch the two meter probes together, should see 0 ohms(direct connection), this tests if the meter is working correctly
Put 1 probe on black wire(on connector)
1 Probe on the wire being tested, i.e. med. low or med. high, switch in the cab needs to be on matching setting
Should see 0 ohms
A direct connection between the two ground points thru the speed switch
Yes, both ground points are working or you wouldn't have both Low speed and High speed
Cam you explain this in more detail? I am insure how it would work. Do I need to have the wires from the cab connected to the resistor block wires while I am doing this test?
Here is a picture of under the hood. 4 Wires coming from resistor block, 4 wires coming out of the wiring loom. Using the numbering below, which should I have connected? When I tested it, I had 4 & 8 connected, 3& 7 connected, and then 1 & 2 connected and the fan did NOT run in Med Hi mode. What wires do I test for 0 Ohms? If I disconnect the wires from the cab to test them they won't have any connection to the switch!