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Far all late model Toyota and Lexus
Preloaded with the latest firmware
Upgradeable via PC/Internet and hand-held
Works with any brand or remote start or security
No keys required
Includes 10 pin harness
This is in teh one for the XK05, is it just for toyota/lexus? guess i gotta go to the stealership and get myself a new key... I have a second key but it won't start the truck, will unlock it though and allow me to turn the ignition on. guess I just need to get the chip programmed or whatever?

and how did your search return the xk04 and mine the xk05?

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NKR - No Key Required for operation means vehicle owner does not have to give up a key.
so it just means some systems require a key to be permanently put in the truck, and this one is not like that, but I do still need two keys to program.

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I found the XK04 but going to the retired model list

Your correct on the second half, that just means that you don't have to give up a key permanently but you do need both to program.

Bring your wallet, the dealer isn't chip to program keys...
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yeah but i got no other option, right?
also the key i have i use has the fat head, the secon key has a much smaller head, does it still have a chip or whatever inside, or are some just for like unlocking doors?
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$95 for a new key... the one i had was non programable so I had to get a new one. $63 for programming and $25 for the new key. next time i can just get the key without programming though.
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All you need to do is take something like your key and tap on the window to test the sensor. The domelight supervision when hooked up properly will activate the domelight when you unset the alarm, it is kind of nice when it is dark outside, and considered a safety measure especially for women so they can see inside the vehicle before they get in. I agree that the shop might not help you out with warranty issues, but as long as they are a authorized DEI retailer that installed it, DEI should. I mean what if you moved and the shop wasn't around.
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ok got everything now except the bypass module for remote start... hopefully going to install this sunday-monday.

many questions on wiring.... let me just start with a couple.
colors correspond to viper harness, not sure if some may be different from ford's.

This means.... what?
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white/brown - "Parking light isolation wire - pin 87a of onboard relay"
Where are the door trigger inputs, and what does the second part of green mean? (n/c or n/o)
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Violet - (+) Door trigger input
Green - (-) Door trigger input (n/c or n/o)
Where are the door lock outputs I should wire to?
Is there just some big jumble of wires that has all of these things in it?

And what is the neutral safety switch for? disable the system? or just the autostart?

now, on the remote start plug. Not sure what this means:
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Violet - (+) Starter output (car side of starter kill)
Green - (+) Starter input (key side of starter kill
And... what is this? solenoid for trunk or something? meaning I don't need it? ORRR I could use it on the tool box?!
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FYI, I did not get a whole lot of documentation on install stuff. part of the reason I have questions...
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I also found this Very Detailed Install of VIPER 5901 with Remote Start - Acura Forum - Acura World.com
which is somewhat useful. he mentions here not needing to use much of the wires in the harness thanks to the XK01 for his acura, will I face a similar situation where I don't need to wire all of these?
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And... what is this? solenoid for trunk or something? meaning I don't need it? ORRR I could use it on the tool box?!


FYI, I did not get a whole lot of documentation on install stuff. part of the reason I have questions...
that is your valet switch
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that is your valet switch

Wrong, that is a hood pin. Its an option item to install, it will shut the vehicle down if the hood is opened during remote start and makes it impossible to remote start the vehicle if someone was working under the hood. If u don't care sbout that feature them leave it off.
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The viper harness colors have nothing to do with the wiring colors in your vehicle.
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Wrong, that is a hood pin. Its an option item to install, it will shut the vehicle down if the hood is opened during remote start and makes it impossible to remote start the vehicle if someone was working under the hood. If u don't care sbout that feature them leave it off.
oh thats different ive never seen one of them before
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The valet buttons are all built into the antennas of the new vipers
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The valet buttons are all built into the antennas of the new vipers
ah so that's what that button does.

i guess the antenna would be best just above the rearview mirror?
and where for the main box or the bypass module? theres not too much room under my dash, maybe passenger dash or in the middle?
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After tearing apart my dash a little tonight, I pulled of the lower plastic part, followed by the metal plate of similar dimensions just on the other side (the big piece right under the steering column) and thought there looked like room for the brain, i drilled some holes and bolted it in. there was virtually no room for the steering column to move, so I decided it was a bad idea and removed it. I now think I will mount it under the passenger seat. So I'll start on that tomorrow morning...

Someone be ready to answer wiring questions I will probably have!
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white/brown - "Parking light isolation wire - pin 87a of onboard relay"
what is the parking light isolation wire, what does it mean about the relay, and is thi even something I need to worry about? I get the feeling a lot of these wires will go unused.
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Ok well it's mostly in except the autostart because I am still waiting on the bypass module.
I do have a few questions about some things though.
Parking Lights. they should flash when it is armed, right? I wired the parking light wire from the viper to the brown wire in the passenger kick panel, which should be the parking light wire by THIS guide. No flashing lights though.
I also found out that on the inside of the viper brain there are some jumpers or something that were barely mentioned in my papers. well i found with them connected one way (via included fuse) the parking lights are on all time. The other way nothing happens. I am guessing somehow these pins inside the viper brain are related to the parking light flash. I just can't figure it out. A few other issues, but I'll stick to one thing at a time.

Also reference my last post. might it be related to my parking light issue? I just like visual confirmation.
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bump.... also want to share my siren location
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inside door! i think it's pretty clever. impossible to get to without getting in the cab AND the door first. also sound is going through ONE sheet of metal, same as it would under a hood (maybe slightly quieter, but it's still loud) and i may yet install one in the other door too. may have figured out parking light issue. will keep you updated..... am also writing a separate clean write up with pics and stuff. won't be done until my issues are all worked out, but it shoudl be a handy resource after that.
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nice this will be useful
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i was thinking of bailing on the project and taking it somewhere. went to the place ive had work done before, tint and audio, and they wanted $400 for the install. so i left.
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I don't blame you, alarms are a pain to wire.
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I don't blame you, alarms are a pain to wire.
true fact.

mine took me like 3 or 4 days to get it all done. some things where a pita. i am not familiar with your particular alarm, but mine was still a viper alarm. so shoot me a PM if you have a question.
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going to Best Buy for the install Saturday morning.... cause I'm a quitter.
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You have part of it installed don't you?
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well just a bit, i undid a lot because who knows how they will want to do it. siren is still in place and the receiver is stickied to my windshield above rearview mirror. other than that, i wasn't happy with the locations anyway. and since i'm paying them they HAVE to do a good job.
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Awh don't give up, the biggest help putting an alarm in is to get as much as you can together and organized before getting it into the vehicle, if you need some guidance, or some more specific instructions I'm sure theres a few others, and me who are willing to give out insight.

I put in a remote start alarm and added power locks in mine, it took me about 4 hours, my truck didn't require any type of key bypass though, but as long as you have the paper work for everything your good to go.

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