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Besides this trip? Nope, I've got no plans to run the trail any time soon. It's just too hot out there right now for it to be enjoyable. I would however like to get a night trip in sometime this summer. We did about 2-3 hours of the trail at night back in December and had a blast (same trip we finished it end to end in 5 hours). I'll let you know when/if we do it.

Best time to do the trail is fall and spring. Summer can be way too hot, 120+, and winter can be too wet (Soda lake becomes impassable) and cold (if camping (we saw temps down to the 30's during the day in December)).

If we get something going this fall I've got several guys that will go too.
A night trip sounds fun. If we do that I'll put the 4 hid's from the buggy on the front bumper.

I know I can make it now, but I kinda want to get some new upper arms, put my dual shocks back up front and some new shocks in the rear first.
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Gotta be careful with that. There is a limit to vehicles/people on the MR. You can only have 7 vehicles or 14 people before you need to get a permit. And there are rangers out there that will cite you.

That said the last time I went we had over the limit, but under 14, so we split into two groups, a fast group and a slow group. Because of the layout of the trail and where the sites are we were never more than about 10 minutes apart, but still separated enough to be under the amount needed for a permit.

I would also suggest limiting it to a small group if there are going to be a bunch of first timers and stock or lightly modified rigs. It can be a long tough trail and having a lot of 'beginners' can make it even more difficult, even though the trail isn't all that hard by its self.
Ok, how difficult is it to get a permit? Depending on difficulty and price, maybe we can do it..

Does a Superlift count as lightly modified?

Christian said he's not sure because he's a stock 4x4....He'd be fine right?


I saw pictures on ORR...stock F250 4x4's made it no problem... so I'm sure a Ranger would be fine..

Mike, you should try to go, from what I gather it's not all that hard.......Jason correct me if I'm wrong...
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Let's try to plan this for Autumn... Maybe September?
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Ok, how difficult is it to get a permit? Depending on difficulty and price, maybe we can do it..

It's just time and money. I want to say it's $50 and has to be acquired a month before hand, or at least applied for that early.
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Does a Superlift count as lightly modified?

Christian said he's not sure because he's a stock 4x4....He'd be fine right?
For sake of argument there are two types of vehicles as far as this trail is concerned, stock/lifted and highly modified. There are no places on the trail where you need super high ground clearance or 4wd. A stock Edge with good tires could do the trail fine. But its going to be slow going as its a rough trail with very large whoops, with some sections being 5 miles or more long of just monster whoops. And there is a long sand wash and a couple dunes, but if you drive smart this isn't even an issue with 2wd.

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I saw pictures on ORR...stock F250 4x4's made it no problem... so I'm sure a Ranger would be fine..
Yup, two years ago we had an F250 and an F350. I even did part of the trail once in a stock '08 F250, '08 Dodge Ram 2500, and stock '08 Dakota.

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Mike, you should try to go, from what I gather it's not all that hard.......Jason correct me if I'm wrong...
Yea, it's not hard. Just know what you're in for. It's definitely a trip worth making.

The best way to do this trip is going to be in two days. We usually do about 75 miles a day. And even with a stock truck this is doable. The key is tires. Need to have good tires, like BFG's. There are LOTS of opportunities for flats on this trail.

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would a STi be able to do it?
If you had a lift and some BFG AT's on it (I've seen them) then maybe. If not it's going to rip the underside apart, high center, kill tires, and drown in the river. So do, I wouldn't do it in a Subie.
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i bought a quad just do I don't do these kinds of things in my truck anymore. I'm down for long *** rides any time, though, so long as they're legal.
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50 bucks a person or for the whole group? What government agency does that fall under?BLM? State parks? USFS?
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50 bucks a person sounds kinda high... i can see it being 50 a vehicle, but per person is a little ridiculous
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50 bucks a person or for the whole group? What government agency does that fall under?BLM? State parks? USFS?
The permit is $50. And I believe that covers up to 14 vehicles, could be more though. I'm not sure since we were able to get around it last time.

It is BLM and is managed by the Barstow field office.
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... much better! lol
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Ok, If we get a big enough group, I'll happily pay the 50 bucks for a good time......Now if you all want to pitch in beer, that's fine by me....

SO LETS DO THIS!

Chime in if you can go, and if, what month is best for you?
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End of august is good for me
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id like to do this but i have no capable vehicle.. fail...
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End of august is good for me
It's going to be WAY freakin hot out there that time of year.

Personally if we're trying to plan a two or three day trip I would shoot more for like the begging of November. That will be the most pleasant time to do it.

So my vote is beginning of November.

Maybe a night run in August... you down Alon? Straight shot, start in Barstow at sun down and run hard through the night then party in Laughlin the next morning. Our record for the trail so far is 5 hours with three prerunners, no spare tires left, and one broken engine cage. So yea...
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It's going to be WAY freakin hot out there that time of year.

Personally if we're trying to plan a two or three day trip I would shoot more for like the begging of November. That will be the most pleasant time to do it.

So my vote is beginning of November.

Maybe a night run in August... you down Alon? Straight shot, start in Barstow at sun down and run hard through the night then party in Laughlin the next morning. Our record for the trail so far is 5 hours with three prerunners, no spare tires left, and one broken engine cage. So yea...
Um........ I'm down to try, but I need a little more time to prepare the truck. I know I cant do 5 hours, but we'll see.

What usually kills the tires? Cactus, sticks, rocks?

I need to find some spare tires before the trip, build a skid plate up front, new upper arms and some shocks in the back... then its party time.
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The trail is not that tough. Skid plates are not needed unless you are absolutely flying and I think they discourage reckless driving.

I ran the trail with old worn out tires because I didn't want to scar up a new set of tires. In fact, I had a flat on the way out there and we stopped to get it fixed. They said it could not be repaired and wanted me to buy a new tire. I told them to just plug it the best they could and I would not hold them responsible for any failure. It ended up I didn't even have to add air to that repaired tire the rest of the trip and then I bought a new set of tires when I got back home.

Rocks are probably the roughest thing on tires. Cactus is usually not that close to the trail. You can expect a few light surface scratches on the side from brush that hangs over the edge of the trail. Anything more serious damage would be the result of over exuberant driving.
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Ok, October November is going to look better then....

What month is better for the most of you?
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What usually kills the tires? Cactus, sticks, rocks?
Rocks. I've seen ALOT of pinch flats out there.

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...absolutely flying and I think they discourage reckless driving.
Define reckless... it's the same out there as any open desert, the speed limit is any reasonable speed. You just have to be smart and practice good trail etiquette when encountering other groups of people. And don't leave you Jeep parked in the middle of the trail and leave it like some asshat did the last time we ran it....

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Tell that to my leg... lol
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Well count me in I'll take some time off from work in November. Are we talking the first weekend of November? I can make it the weekend of the 13-15 but would drive down Thursday. Do you need a lot of spares? I hope to have on-board air by then.
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BTT! Lets try and get a hard date set for this so we can all plan getting time off work, school, or whatever
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Hey Kev...it's lookin like I'll likely be living down there while this is goin' on....talked to Alon about it for a little bit....i'm totally down if i'm down there.
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yea like i said im in just set the date
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i might be down depends on plans for.....still no date so cant give a for sure and not sure how the truck will be running by then since as of right now tthere wil be no way id be able to take it out there...so only time will tell
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If I have my new truck I'll probably show.
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ill go if somebody has an empty seat lol
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I'm planning on doing this with DR at the end of september... will post up some more info later
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