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Old Aug 2, 2010
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The T5 is a nice trans, but not for 4WD. They are hard to find with the transfer case adapter since they only came in Jeeps and some S10's. Plus from everything I have read the 4WD version are Non-World Class which makes there power capacity very low. Advance adapters used to make a conversion for a World Class T5 from a mustang but that is long out of production.
Alright. well what would you suggest for a tranny? and what vehicles can i get them from?
 
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the only 5 speed tranny that can handle the rigors of off-roading is the ZF 4500

you would be better off with a ZF 5600 heavy duty 6 speed

those bumper mounts will interfere with the proper motion of the shackles in reflex

you would be better off mounting them on the inside of the frame rail

you can find the ZF 5600 on the dodge cummins turbo diesels ( 3500 series )

you should be able to find a wrecked dodge B3500 heavy duty with a good tranny

the good thing is that those trannies bolt right up to the cummins 4BT 4 cylinder diesels
 
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Old Aug 2, 2010
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Originally Posted by cheese_man
the only 5 speed tranny that can handle the rigors of off-roading is the ZF 4500

you would be better off with a ZF 5600 heavy duty 6 speed

those bumper mounts will interfere with the proper motion of the shackles in reflex

you would be better off mounting them on the inside of the frame rail

you can find the ZF 5600 on the dodge cummins turbo diesels ( 3500 series )

you should be able to find a wrecked dodge B3500 heavy duty with a good tranny

the good thing is that those trannies bolt right up to the cummins 4BT 4 cylinder diesels
But will the zf bolt right too a 302?
 
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yes but you will need a adapter

AdvanceAdapters.com | Engine & Transmission Conversion Adapters - Advance Adapters
 
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will i need an adapter for the transfer case or do i need to upgrade that too?
 
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if it is a dana transfer case ( probably not )

but yes ! you will need a transfer case adapter

the engine to nv4500 tranny adapter
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the tranny to transfer case adapter dana300/np231 mounting pattern is the same

you will have to call them for proper spline count
 
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Old Aug 2, 2010
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alright thank you for all the info
 
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Old Aug 9, 2010
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What did you get that 44 out of?
 
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Old Aug 9, 2010
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What did you get that 44 out of?
actually im not really sure. I just went to the junk yard and asked if they had one and they just torched it off a frame so idk what it was.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2010
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any pic updates?
 
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Old Aug 10, 2010
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last weekend i pulled the 302 out of a van. I have pictures of that that i will try to get on this weekend. Hopefully I can also get the 9 in. axle out this weekend too. Sorry its a slow project due to only weekend work.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2010
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I pulled the engine and axle the weekend before last then brought it home this weekend. I also picked up a 4 speed tranny. more pictures will come later today. i hope.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2010
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I got the engine mounted on the stand and stripped it down a bit. The engine runs so i am struggling with whether or not i should take it all apart and buy a rebuild kit and paint it up nice. Tell me what you think. I just picked up a 4 speed ford tranny for a great price. not totally sure what it is. i havent had time to look the numbers up on it. it came with a transfer case with a 4 low so it will work good for what i want to do.

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I have a question with my ford 9 in. axle. Are the threaded studs that third member bolts too replaceable? Four of the bolts are so rusted there is nothing left to grip to get it off and the stud might be to rusted too. I just dont want to destroy it when i am trying to get the bolts off if they arent replaceable.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2010
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i think they are but im not 100% sure
 
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Old Aug 16, 2010
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ya i would think they would be like lug studs that can be pounded out but i would like to be sure before i tackle it.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2010
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wow ,, you hit the jackpot

a new process 435 ( granny low ) with a dana 300 and the factory adapter

now that is a rock crawling drive train
 
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Old Aug 17, 2010
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Well good deal! Ya the guy i got it from is my gf's friend and he said just make an offer so i dont htink i have to pay much. thanks for letting me know what it is. I need to get some new synchronizing rings for it. know any place good?
 
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i believe drive train .com has the parts

the name may have changed though
 
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here it is

New Process 435 Manual transmission parts, rebuild and overhaul kits . - Drivetrain.com
 
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Old Aug 17, 2010
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Thanks for the site!
 
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Are you sure its a dana 300 transfer case? cause i have been looking at some pictures and they have two of these and mine only has one. also it is flipped to were the front 4x4 runs to the drivers side.

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it is a dana 300 transfer case

i had the same 1 on my old jeep cj7

the front drive shaft output is on the passenger side
the inspection cover should be on the bottom

the shifter on the side of the adapter is for the flipped transfer case output

it was a bad design , the transfer case was not getting enough lube

gear oil would leak out through the shifter rail bushings

you can do it that way , but you will have to over fill it

and keep a constant eye on the oil level and refill when it gets low

advance adapters manufactured a all aluminum driver side output transfer case

they sell it as the ATLAS II transfer case

it is far lighter and more gear ratio`s

a lot of jeepers switch over to the aluminum trany to trans case adapter

this switch lightens the trany and trans case weight

ranger frames are not as heavy duty as the old cj7 frames

there is a lot of welding and re-inforcing of the mounting area needs to be done to support the weight of that tranny / trans case combo
 
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Old Aug 17, 2010
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Alright well i will be sure to reinforce the frame up. Do you know of any pictures of how people did it?
 
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Have any suggestions for a clutch?
 
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