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zabeard 12-16-2008 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by casfz1 (Post 1144485)
I wonder if that is why Chris tubed the front of his?

Sitting on the stands is that what your ride height is going to be?

it used to be 2.5" higher than what you see it in the pics.

tubing the frame was not in the budget, neither was the driveshaft being too short. i also have no idea what to do with the engine mounts.

i just need to sit back and think about it for a little while.

casfz1 12-16-2008 07:19 AM

Well that really sucks. If you need a hand or anything give me a call after xmas as I don't go back to work until the 5th.

RedOctober 12-16-2008 07:44 AM

I'm sure you've thought about it, but could you get away with flipping the steering linkage under the Knuckle arm? or would that get the drag ling to close to the diff cover at full turn??

Run a different style of joint than those balls say heim joint... at the knuckle arm? and getting a longer pitman arm?? Flip it all down below, that may gain an inch or two at the frame when flexed upward...

Not an expert on the matter by any means but I have had my hands in a few custom suspensions, just trying to throw some ideas your way if your still scratching your head..

your gonna love those new shocks LUCKY!!!!!! my good buddy did about the same setup your going for on his samurai. Your truck will be able to take a serious beating on that set up.

zabeard 12-16-2008 08:09 AM

oh yeah i have thought about it but i would need all new steering which is $$, plus it would be good to have the high steer.

its about money in a way.

spend it here or there. and hopefully not both. trying to do it the most inexpensive yet effective way.

RedOctober 12-16-2008 08:31 AM

That's always the biggest problem when doing custom work......$$$$$

I say take some from the steering.... It's a hole new type of $$$$$ and time when your talking tube front end....

you'd still have the high steer just 2 inches lower. doesn't look like your running center knuckle arms... how much is it going to cost to have the drive shaft lengthened?

maybe fudge with the king pin alignment a bit?? that may give you a hair more clearance Clarence...

zabeard 12-16-2008 08:54 AM

king pin alignment?

i think i am going to pull the axle back about 3/4" then check some clearances. then go from there.

stRanger 12-16-2008 09:34 AM

So, I'm not seeing and engine cross member, unless it is different than what my 95's looks like... What are you doing for a crossmember?

zabeard 12-16-2008 09:41 AM

98+ Trucks dont have one.

RedOctober 12-16-2008 09:45 AM

sorry should have said kingpin axis.. pinion angle. obviously you don't want to fudge it to much or you'll throw your caster off..

zabeard 12-16-2008 09:46 AM

yeah those pics that is set already...

RedOctober 12-16-2008 09:50 AM

we'll have fun I'm off to bed... maybe you'll come up with something by the afternoon...

zabeard 12-16-2008 11:30 AM

i think i may have figured it out, tonight will tell. :)

btw coil overs will be here Friday

PUNKROCKPILOT 12-16-2008 11:55 AM

its the one that says "BAD MOTHER F**KER"

#1 TRUCK ON THIS SITE, HANDS DOWN!

Cant wait to see how it turns out.

04blackedge 12-16-2008 12:12 PM

Great to hear Zach, I hope it works out for ya

Downey 12-16-2008 12:24 PM

good luck man i know nothing about suspension set up like you do i read your threads to try and learn looks sweet. you have defiantly inspired me to do my own sas.

zabeard 12-16-2008 09:56 PM

kept the frame the same, just working on trimming some things up. looks like i will be able to get the 5" of up travel i wanted.

RedOctober 12-17-2008 02:43 AM

right on.. some photo's when you have the time please :bigeyes: I wanna see..

zabeard 12-17-2008 05:40 AM

it didnt change a lot from the night before just a bunch of measuring and tweaking to make sure it would clear.

JoshK 12-17-2008 05:56 AM

And Grinding

freddie 12-17-2008 06:02 AM

Well thats good news!

redranger4.0 12-17-2008 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by zabeard (Post 1145234)
kept the frame the same, just working on trimming some things up. looks like i will be able to get the 5" of up travel i wanted.

Notching it like we talked about?

zabeard 12-17-2008 10:34 AM

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maybe in 1 spot. i need to get my pan hard installed and test it out.

on the panhard i have seen people bend them some to clear certain things. When you bend them which angle do you match your drag link to.

I have always wondered this, here is a pic. The Black line is the bent pan hard. the Red line is if it was straight and the blue is the drag link.

so which angle actually counts on the panhard when you bend it? the imaginary straight line or the parts just after the joint.

stRanger 12-17-2008 01:50 PM

I've wondered the same!! Might have to go with a bent trac bar on my truck and was wondering about that!

gumby 12-17-2008 02:58 PM

the imaginary line is the important one.

zabeard 12-17-2008 08:14 PM

so your saying...

no matter how the pan hard is bent its still the same angle... right? That is what I think but I could be wrong, its just been bugging me. too much thought into it I suppose.


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