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Old 04-26-2005
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i got a ticket goin 110 in a 55 in a turbo civic but my cousin is the dispatcher for the cops so i gave her a nice hug and she got it fixed but i just bought my ranger today so i'm lookin to catch a ticket in it fast since the cops here always like to bust the new cars
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Easy way to get off a speeding ticket

If your nice to the officer, many times you can state you just put oversized tires on the truck and forgot about the speedometer compensation, explain that you are "going to have it fixed" in a few days and your completely sorry and it won't happen again. Most police will buy that excuse once to avoid a battle in court, and if your nice most cases you can get off easier, like with a warning, rather than a ticket.

Or you can be like my friends, and put state police badges in your rear window, it seems to detur police from pulling you over.

Just some tips that may help you get out or get off easy out of that ticket, and do remember, when you change your tire size, your speedometer will be off, about 5 mph every 3 inches you add at 55mph. so don't jump from a 31 to a 38 and believe 55mph is really 55mph!

just some hints

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..I also like to use the bluelight and just start going, most local cops will ignore you for that once and a while, just don't pull it too much or you will be fined and I do think that is grounds for loss of license, so don't try it on my account.
And people like you are the ones who give the rest of us with legitimate, legal, and neccessary uses for flashing lights a bad name. If you are actually on some kind of FD or ambulance, you should lose the privlidge of using lights and have whatever disiplinary action brought against you swiftly along with a boot in the ***. If you aren't and just use them for kicks, I hope you get arrested and your vehicle is impounded for a long time.

As for state police badges in the back window, that's just as bad although maybe not illegal. Lame at best.
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FireRanger,

I have only used the lights once illegally and that was for a 12 car pileup out of my range, I was directing traffic away from the accident scene, I run a Whelen Edge Blue Light bar for 3 surrounding Fire Companys, all Vollenteer, and I take the responsibility very seriously, I was simply making a statement on what you could do, as well as just a joke. I would never misuse my lights or tell someone else it was legimate to use theirs for a purpose of the such, I was simply making a joke out of it. So don't try it unless your in a rush

Sorry for the confusion.

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If you took the use of them seriously, you wouldn't be suggesting people use them simply because they are "in a rush" or don't want to get a speeding ticket. In fact, the subject wouldn't have even come up. Your first statement is absolutely nothing like your reply so either you were saying that to sound cool or your lying in your reply. I'm sorry I'm coming across as an *** but I can't stand people who abuse this stuff when I try very hard to advocate it's legitimate use. I don't need some idiot motorist saying "oh that's just some nut with a blue light, I'm not pulling over" when I'm trying to get to someone's kid that's not breathing because they've seen too many people do like your saying screwing around with them.
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Well in November I was coming home from the bar after rugby practice, (and no I had not been drinking, much to the disappointment of our men's team) and he said I was going 75 in a 45, now all of you who have seen my truck and have driven with me, know it won't go that in 4th gear, and I was about to head up a hill and would not do that in 5th, so I still say there was no way I was going that fast. He wrote me a ticket for 25 over, I went to court plead guilty but for speed reduction, presto changeo...15 over and 3 points. If I don't have any more tickets for the next 7 months, the points come off. If you have to go to court, plead guilty and ask for a reduction, most of the time for a first offense it won't be that bad. I also got money back too, so that was a plus!
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FireRanger, I was not suggesting the illegal use of a bluelight, here in the state of PA you need to have it registered with the PA State Police, with a legimate use, The use of any blue or red light on any roadway is illegal unless you are personel that can use it on the way to a call. I was not trying to imply do it I was simply making a joke. If you do the reasearch you can not buy blue lights or red lights without a permit in the US. I never abuse my right as a VFF to use my light because I know damn well one day it could be my house I am heading too and I want to get there as soon a physcially possible as well. Many people already don't pull over for us now, and Im not suggesting giving them a reason not to I just was making a simple joke out of it. I Think many know the importance of emergency personel and anyone with any sense will know that, that is not the honorable way to go. Everyone should know that emergency vehicle wheather it is going to their house or someone elses should be treated the same. We generally report people who do not pull over and they get fined, we try to get the understanding out that, if it was your house, were sure you didn't want it to burn down because you were in our way. I take my job very seriously and I may seem like an *** but I would never use the light, or my power as a firefighter in a harmful manner. It is a priveledge to use the light and I take that seriously, and most other volenteers down this way joke as well as I do about it but we all have firm heads planted on our shoulders and know the right way about things.

Im sorry for the confusion and the "joke" I didn't mean to offend you but I was simply making a statement about it because I have seen others do it and it is a way to get away from the police. But not the right one, nor the legitamate method, also many will never have access to a blue light or red light for that matter and will never be able to do this. Unrestricted access and use of these type lights is illegal in the state of PA and elsewhere, I do know if you don't have a permit and have a red or blue bar you can get a hefty fine, and if you have it on in the state of PA for a non-emergency situation it is $1,000 - $2,500 and a license suspension of a year. No its not a joke to try it, so don't do it but we should be able to have fun with the subject. Many say things like "I'm gonna kill you" but will never really do it, so take it like that, I only suggested the idea, if someone was going to do it, they already have and yes I hope they recieve the proper conceqences for it.

You can prevent everything, but you know when you say something like "what would you do if it was your house, or your family" many people have a new meaning for emergency personel and will gladly take the 3 seconds it takes to pull over and possibly help save somebodys life.
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FireRanger, I was not suggesting the illegal use of a bluelight, here in the state of PA you need to have it registered with the PA State Police, with a legimate use, The use of any blue or red light on any roadway is illegal unless you are personel that can use it on the way to a call. I was not trying to imply do it I was simply making a joke. If you do the reasearch you can not buy blue lights or red lights without a permit in the US. I never abuse my right as a VFF to use my light because I know damn well one day it could be my house I am heading too and I want to get there as soon a physcially possible as well. Many people already don't pull over for us now, and Im not suggesting giving them a reason not to I just was making a simple joke out of it. I Think many know the importance of emergency personel and anyone with any sense will know that, that is not the honorable way to go. Everyone should know that emergency vehicle wheather it is going to their house or someone elses should be treated the same. We generally report people who do not pull over and they get fined, we try to get the understanding out that, if it was your house, were sure you didn't want it to burn down because you were in our way. I take my job very seriously and I may seem like an *** but I would never use the light, or my power as a firefighter in a harmful manner. It is a priveledge to use the light and I take that seriously, and most other volenteers down this way joke as well as I do about it but we all have firm heads planted on our shoulders and know the right way about things.

Im sorry for the confusion and the "joke" I didn't mean to offend you but I was simply making a statement about it because I have seen others do it and it is a way to get away from the police. But not the right one, nor the legitamate method, also many will never have access to a blue light or red light for that matter and will never be able to do this. Unrestricted access and use of these type lights is illegal in the state of PA and elsewhere, I do know if you don't have a permit and have a red or blue bar you can get a hefty fine, and if you have it on in the state of PA for a non-emergency situation it is $1,000 - $2,500 and a license suspension of a year. No its not a joke to try it, so don't do it but we should be able to have fun with the subject. Many say things like "I'm gonna kill you" but will never really do it, so take it like that, I only suggested the idea, if someone was going to do it, they already have and yes I hope they recieve the proper conceqences for it.

You can prevent everything, but you know when you say something like "what would you do if it was your house, or your family" many people have a new meaning for emergency personel and will gladly take the 3 seconds it takes to pull over and possibly help save somebodys life.

You can infact, from most vendors, buy any color light that you want, it just depends on wheter or not the person buying the lights are complying within the bounds of their state laws. In the past 6 months, I've seen stories of 4 people that have decked out crown vics / chevy impalas with lights, a siren, and heck, one guy even had a few riot shields with him. All of those people should not have had them, and used them in stupid ways, some trying to pull people over, and one guy raped a teenage girl.

Using your lights as a way to get out of a ticket is one ****ty thing to do, cause if I were the cop that was trying to pull you over, and you flashed your lights at me, the chase would be on, and your chief would be getting a call from me, or my chief. Your lights are only to be used in an actual emergency, not out messing around with friends, or trying to get out of a ticket.
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If you do the reasearch you can not buy blue lights or red lights without a permit in the US.
One of us needs to research and it certainly isn't me. Anyone can buy any flashing light they want, there is no restriction. The dealers and vendors will sell them to anyone with a bank account or credit card to give them money. Trust me, I've been dealing with these doing installation and maintinence for years.

Again, your reply is the total opposite of your first post where you said "I also like to use the bluelight and just start going". That isn't a joke. That is you stating what you like to do. Your replies, other than the blatent misinformation, seem sincere but they just don't jive with your first reply. At this point, I don't know which one of your stories to believe but I'm still leaning towards that dumb side.
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All of those people should not have had them, and used them in stupid ways, some trying to pull people over, and one guy raped a teenage girl.
Wholey effed up batman.. Hopefully that dude gets caught and gets the everliving crap beat out of him!
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Yea, I think the guy that shot the Providence detective that "sustained injuries from his 3 story jump" got off easier than the other guy I said.
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One of those moments where were I a news camera man I'd accidentally point my camera the wrong way.. "Oops! Sorry Mr producer man. I thought I got the arrest on tape.. Guess not!"
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why can't somebody joke and you take it funny for once?
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Because your dealing with peoples lives, that's why!
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Hey Bud, I dedicate my life to fighting fires and get no return out of it, I have never used my lights in an inaproprate manner. and I don't know why a simple joke can't be made, I thought we were all mature adults that can take it. I have never unlawfully done anything but speed to get to a call as soon as I can, never once have I turned on my lights to clear traffic in an inapropreate manner nor plan to. I was simply making a joke out of a serious manner and thought people would take it as a ha ha, not as a offence against law obiding citizens. 1/2 the time I don't even use my lights when I go to calls because I can get to the station within a couple minutes before the drivers get there. Now I'm not trying to say, bug off, but I truely made that post for a laugh, if you review my other posts you can see I naturally crack jokes and sometimes some don't find them funny, but I don't like being accused of this kind of stuff. Also it is illegal in the united states to sell blue or red emergency light covers without authorized use, although many places disobey this law quite like the ciggerette law. I know my state laws and I follow them quite strictly and I would hope everyone else does, I do not hear of illegal use of police cruisers, and that kind of stuff does not happen around here, The worst people do around here is strap a light to there truck and run back roads fast with the lights on. I would never do this myself or advise it, but I was simply make a joke that everybody here back home would find funny. If you talk to true emergency Personel they can joke about that kinda stuff and never think of it as illegal and never think of you doing it... its just policy and respect to not run lights if your not going to an emergency.
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Everytime I hear of someone hear getting lights "for fun" I remind them of Amy Willard... She was murdered 1/2 mile from my house by a "cop" witha blue light. No one stopped b/c they though it was an umarked car.. So it DOES happen and us emergency services personel do not laugh about that.. I esp take the whole emerg lighting thing very serious.
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BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T JOKING AND YOU KNOW IT

Your backpedaling now and it just sounds lamer and lamer each time. "I dedicate my life ot fighting fires...." Please, that sounds like a line I heard in Backdraft. I don't know a single person in "this line of work" that would actually say that about themselves. People who actually take this seriously don't brag about themselves, their flashing lights, and how much they "dedicate" themselves. It is shown in your actions and decisions. You make it sound like you've been "dedicating your life" to this. For how long concidering your only 18 now???

I don't care what thesis you write about how legitimate you really are and how you would never advocate any of this. As far as I'm concerned, it is total BULL. You did advocate it. You did admit that you do it and encouraged others to do so as well. You can't sit there and pretend you didn't say something when it is in the post that everyone read just prior. It was not said in any kind of remotely joking mannor. I am not a moron. Neither is the other Matt. And neither is everyone else here. I see people act like this often enough to recognize it. For god's sake, your defense before was to tell us all about your lightbar on your truck, which apparently now isn't on your truck, as if it makes a difference.

You are arguing a battle you can not possibly win here kid. There are plenty of people here besides me and the other Matt who I am confident would agree so don't think it's just me going off on you. There are several firefighters on here who are probably shaking their heads at you right now as well. You shot yourself in the foot from the word 'go' and now your trying to run uphill.
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very well said.... Now back to the topic... I chuckle everytime I read a post of someone's speeding ticket and how cops suck (from another post).. BLAH BLAH
I have been driving since 16 (6.5 years, not long mind you). I have avoided tickets and all other sorts of illegal actions to myself... Not b/c of a fake FOP sticker, illegal PSP Badge, lights on my ruck, my volunteer EMT or firefighter status or even MY REAL badge! I amazingly did this all by using onw simple step..... I obeyed the LAW! If the speed is 55 I do no more than 55 or 60.... If the tint law says 15% I do only 15%.... I managed this feet but with one simple rule: I followed the LAW.. Maybe it can work for you guys also.....
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speeding can have many more serious consequences than monetary discomfort. because of my stupid actions as a dumb young kid (95 in a 55, 85 in a 55, reckless driving - ran a stop sign in my 88 s-10 "on 2 wheels going 45" according to the ticket) i now have problems:

i have to wait for another 3 years before i can even APPLY for most police forces

i am going to have serious trouble getting my top secret clearance for the military (at secret right now)

i can't get a job with the post office, or ups, or FD, or any PD or anything that requires you to drive on the job, for pretty much another 3 years!

and then i'm not guaranteed good-to-go, but i'll at least get a chance to explain my actions which i don't get now!

don't go over 14 mph over (cops around here set their lasers/radars to beep at 15+)! and don't speed more than 5-6 in work/school zones! it isn't worth it. what are you going to save, 5 or 10 minutes? not worth the $1000s of dollars i've paid out because of stupid driving!!!!! 1000s!
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Very good advice, save a life, slow down, and leave earlier or speed places that it is legitamate to speed, like a 1/4 mile at your local drag strip. Speed is known to kill and I know here we have lost over 24 people county wide last year due to speed induced accidents. In most cases when you crash at thoes kind of speeds you don't get a 2nd chance like you are. I find it horrible using the jaws of life to pry mangled 16 and 17 year olds out of cars who were trying to impress or racing with their friends. Espically with trucks, it is reccomended to keep the speed limit, you have alot of ways to tip very easily and/or if you have a blowout, and are not paying attention, you have some pretty large concequences. The roads are marked with the reccomended speed limits for a reason, even tho you can pull 20 mph more around that turn, whats on the other side, and what if your vehicle fails. Just think about this, how would you feel if one of your siblings was crossing the road after that turn, would you be able to stop, or one better, what if it was your child. You never want that guilt placed on you for taking someone life wether in the vehicle or a inocent driver or pedistran on the road when you lose control.

Be careful and be safe, too many people die in auto accidents in 1 year... the tickets do serve as a warning, and it is very serious. In a post earlier on up I explained how to avoid tickets or possible ways to get "forgiven" for your actions, like pleading dumb. Don't take that as an excuse forever, if you get pulled over, you don't have to admit it then, we all could use the money, but take the knowledge that police officer gave you and put it to use and don't speed again. Kids don't just play in speed traps, there everywhere, and when your not thinking about your speed, your not thinking about them.

Be Careful and Be Safe, there are plenty of places to off-road as well as speed, even for a small cost... a life isen't worth a couple minutes of fun, nor is the pain that you are left with.

3 Years although is not bad, Im sure when you look back at your actions, you regret it, but you also hopefully took it as a learning experence and hopefully others learn from you.

By no means am I saying if you are late and doing 3mph over the speed limit you are wrong, just be careful and remember, you are in full control of that vehicle, if you can't control it slow down or park it because you can't replace a life, you can relearn how to drive obeying the speed limit. Be Careful and god bless, but please remember to always check what your doing, and don't plainly forget that lives are in your hands when your behind the wheel.

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I've had quite a few encounters with police (in Indiana.)

1st- I was 14, driving my friends Honda Accord. Got pulled over in the parking lot of Best Buy because the "trunk wasn't shut" when it was, but he had it set up to a switch that lowered it (or the opposite) for car shows. (While the music was going.) He told me to get out, and to never do it again.

2nd- Age: 15, in my old Camaro with a licensed driver. Searched for drugs, had to stand outside in -2 degree weather for 3 and a half hours. Then they told me to go home.

3rd- Age: 15, with my girlfriend (16 no license) doing 87 in a 45. He told me he didn't have the papers he needed to have the car towed with him, and to take it home.

4th- Age: 15, driving with my parking lights on (sun just starting to go down.) Told me next time he catches me doing it, I'm getting a ticket. (Still don't understand it.)

5th- Age: 15, driving alone on a permit (first time I actually got in trouble) without a seatbelt on. Towed my car, didn't offer me a ride, walked about 10 miles. Then he came back and asked if he could give me a ride. Total ended up being around 400 to get the car out.

6th- Age: 16, ticket for drinking a bottle of sprite without a label. Ended up being 65 dollars. "Looked like an alcoholic beverage." yeah.. right..
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I never go to the first court date. I always put it off at least once. By doing so you increase the likely hood that the cop wont show up. If the cop does not show plea NOT guilty and you walk free like it never happened. If the cop is out on medical the judge sometimes takes it easy on you if you plea guilty at least in my experiance. If you plea NOT guilty and the cop is out on medical it only puts off the trail. In my experiance the long you put off the trail the more you increase your chances of the cop not showing up at least in my experance. My insurance goes up weather I got a point on my licensce or not. Points on your licensce are only related to the DMV and you keeping your licensce. For you first ticket ever I would put it off at least once and hope the cop is a no show if he does show i would plea guilty and tell the judge the speed limit was just changed and I wasn't thinking about it and just driving like normal and this is my first ticket ever and it wont happen again.

I am not giving legal advise only telling you my experiance and what I would do if I were in your shoes you have to make your own decision.
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