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Old Nov 16, 2019
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Anyone know how the new Rangers are selling?

Reason being that I have put about 6000 miles in on mine, and in all that distance, across 4 states, I have yet to see another new Ranger.

It's like I bought the only one. I don't like that because I don't want to find out that I bought a soon-to-be orphaned vehicle. Not that it makes a lot of difference in reality, but if it does not sell well, then parts etc will not be very available in future years.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2019
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Im not anywhere near you. I live up in ontario, and sales are super-slow. According to my local dealer, lots of test drives until they see the sticker then its nopenopenope..
 
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Old Nov 17, 2019
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You can look here: Ford Ranger Sales Move To Third Place In Segment Q2 2019

20,000 sold in 2nd quarter, double the 10,000 sold in 1st quarter(first offered), so 30,000 sold so far

Tacoma is still king of the mid-size truck market, but looks like Ranger is shaving off some Chevy Colorado buyers

Canada Ranger sales are dismal, 600......................
 
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Old Nov 17, 2019
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Hmm..

I drove a frontier, and a Colorado. Neither my wife nor I could stand them, Colorado was uncomfortable, bad visibility out of the Frontier. Got in the Ranger, and felt like it was built just about how I wanted it..... (ok there are some fairly minor things, but).

Tacoma was too expensive, when the Ranger was just fine. The rest were even more expensive, or esle not available.

I guess they are just not selling near me in MO, nor in Illinois, Wisconsin, or middle Minnesota.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2019
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At $50k mildly optioned, they aren't selling for **** here.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2019
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Originally Posted by 01Mazda4x4
At $50k mildly optioned, they aren't selling for **** here.
Say WHAT?

Sheesh, mine, base model awith just a couple options, 2WD, it was comfortably under $25k here.

We talkin the same truck here? How does the Ranger get to double the price over the border? Even in Canadian money? For the $50k price here, you can just about get into some of the huge dually setups.... but you can surely pay more for those if you load them up.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2019
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Have a look here: https://www.pgford.ca/vehicles/new/?...CAAEgIPrvD_BwE

You also have to remember exchange rate is about 1.35 now, so 30,000us$ is 40,500can$

There is also about $5,000can$ in sales taxes and fees
 

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Old Nov 18, 2019
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Well Jerry I hope you like your truck, and what I'm about to say, don't let it get under your skin.

Yes, way too expensive in Canada !
Useless truck that's still way too big and for the size of it, the box is too small, and so is the interior.
It's not a truck, it's not an SUV.

Rangers were all about practically for the working guy who needed something less expensive to run, but still got the job done.
Ford totally missed the mark on the new one !
 
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Old Nov 19, 2019
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A base 2wd is around 35.
Base 4wd is 40.
Fully loaded "black edition" is 53.
A local dealer has a fully optioned f350 and its 110k.

I think they look nice. But I could never handle the constant start stop BS. I would sooner pick up a low mile 2011 for 12k.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2019
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The "stop start BS" is for passing emissions, and you can disable it after start up, but have to do that every time you start up the vehicle
There is a plug and play device, 3rd party, that allows you to select "disable" on each start up so you don't have to any more
 
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Old Nov 19, 2019
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Box is a full 6 foot bed, no issue therm, unless you buy a crew cab, which I'd never do. The crew cab goes down to a 4 or 5 foot bed, I think 5, and that is too small. S10 had 6 foot, so I'm fine with that. Straight no x cab S10 could be had with 8 foot IIRC, but that was too limiting, I want to be able to stick stuff in the back of the cab.

Your base model is half again more expensive than I paid, although we are comparing USD to CND, so buying power ratio is messed up and not considered.

Bottom line is that the base model is lower cost than any of the other trucks that I could stand to drive.... in the US. And, 20 years later, it cost about the same in constant dollars as my old S10. Plus it carries more, tows more, and can actually accelerate when needed. The old S10 flexfuel 4 cyl was pretty wimpy and yet got no better mileage than what this is getting.

Yes, I like it, even though it is bigger than I wanted, and taller than I wanted, and only has an automatic tranny. Opinions can vary and it won't bother me.

Just get the right info before having the opinion.... like the "tiny bed" I keep hearing about. it looks small, but it's standard 6 foot size on the basic what they call here a "king cab", essentially an X-cab, The crew cab is silly, almost one of those "yuppie trucks" that are like a bed on the back of an SUV.... those even have a swing away frame made to hold groceries... not like the makers don''t aim THAT at families.... you'll never see a load of dirt or mulch in one of them!

The X cab is, however, much more 4 person than the S10 was, even though it had "jump seats" attached to the cab sides in back. I've already had someone in the back on a several hour trip, and they were fine. Picked the shortest person for the back, though.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2019
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Is it even available in a standard, I think in order to get any fuel economy and power, the automatic has to be in there ?
 
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Old Nov 19, 2019
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Is it even available in a standard, I think in order to get any fuel economy and power, the automatic has to be in there ?
2.3 Ecoboost and 10 speed automatic is the only way it comes, no options on engine or transmission.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2019
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Originally Posted by 2011Supercab
2.3 Ecoboost and 10 speed automatic is the only way it comes, no options on engine or transmission.
Kind of thought so, with that small of an engine and only a five speed, one would have to rev the **** out of the engine, even with a turbo.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2019
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The 10 speed tranny seems to be rev limiting..... If you start up from a stop and do not punch it, the thing pretty much holds at 2000 rpm, and shifts up like a RoadRanger until you stop accelerating. If you call for faster, it will seem to hold it at 2500, or 3000, etc. I saw it at 4K once, when I really made it move to get out of a place I did not want to be.... But it does not scream. Nice.

That is totally unlike the Frontier or the Colorado, which I hated for other reasons... both of them if you accelerate at all fast, they seem to rev to redline and stay there screaming. Dunno if it is actually redline, but the screaming is true. Both had maybe a 5 speed automatic.

If you have a manual, the rev limit is your own responsibility. I never had to rev the S10 like that, but it would not have mattered, it wasn't gonna accelerate anyway. I had a 4:10 rear end in it, it was like a tractor. The little engine had no torque until 4k, and I don't generally "race rev".
 
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Old Nov 19, 2019
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Originally Posted by Jeff R 1
Kind of thought so, with that small of an engine and only a five speed, one would have to rev the **** out of the engine, even with a turbo.
With the "Trailer Towing Package" it can pull a 7500lb trailer
 
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Old Nov 20, 2019
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The 10R80 was a project from GM and Ford working together

7th "gear" is the 1:1 ratio, 8, 9 and 10 are the 3 Overdrive "gears" yes 3 of them

1st is 4.7:1 so almost a Granny gear(6:1), 1st in the 4R or 5R was 2.5:1
2nd gear is 3:1
3rd is 2.1:1

Reverse is 4.8:1, on the old 5Rs it was 2.1:1, so you won't be backing up too fast, lol, but.................if you were pushing a trailer it would be great
 
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Old Nov 20, 2019
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If I was buying one of these, I would be skeptical, in the end you can only cram so much air and fuel in 2.3 liters until it brakes something, that, and if the compression is raised so much, no fuel would be suitable.
I think if I hauled a load of gravel or took a bunch of shingles out to the recycling depot, I think it would be working pretty hard, even more so with all the mountains around here.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2019
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I am beginning to see quite a few down here in Central Texas, of course this is pickup country. I have not driven one but did drive the Explorer with the same 4 cylinder Ecoboost engine and must say that I was quite impressed.
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Old Nov 20, 2019
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My initial (6500 miles already) opinion is that the engine kicks a$$. Literally.... If you punch it, there is a turbo lag, and then it does in fact kick you and take off. I have not pulled a max load trailer, I don't have a max load hitch (yet), but I cannot see why it should not be fine as far as power. It's less than half what one of the Italian race companies got out of 1.3liters decades ago, so this is maybe 20 to 25% of that power/liter. Stresses lower to go with that.

The old S10 would haul a spring-bottoming load of whatever, but with the 2.2l natural aspirated little screamer, you needed to be in a low gear to go uphill. Had that fun out West in it at 5k ft elevation, and the S10 was working hard, but this one with 2x power should be OK. You expect it to work hard at max load anyhow... otherwise the engineers spent too much money on the engine....
 
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Old Nov 22, 2019
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Originally Posted by RonD
Have a look here: https://www.pgford.ca/vehicles/new/?...CAAEgIPrvD_BwE

You also have to remember exchange rate is about 1.35 now, so 30,000us$ is 40,500can$

There is also about $5,000can$ in sales taxes and fees
Finally looked there....

EVERY one of those was a 4 x 4, with options. No 2WD that I saw even listed.

 
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Old Nov 22, 2019
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I have a 80 mile round trip commute from Frederick Maryland down to the area just outside of DC. I see maybe 1 or 2 a week! That's not including the dozen or so sitting on the one dealer's lot I pass. I did see one while out running errands last weekend. I'm a bit surprised at how few I see. I'm a fan but they aren't in my financial future.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2019
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Wasn't in my financial plan either, but the 207,000 mile S10 did not meet my sudden need for a lot of trips from Missouri to Minnesota, either. At a tad over 20k, I was not what I would call pleased, but the S10 had cost me a bit shy of 15k, 20 years ago, so the increase in cost was not horrible.

As it turns out, I really like the thing.

They claim 19 city and 26 highway, and, by golly, I got 25.5 mpg on the trip up this time, at 75 mph (or more) the whole way. City is also pretty close, 18.8 or so as far as I can determine. It ain't a Prius, but it's what I need, and it does what they say it should. And it's a highway cruiser, as well as a nice "heavy half ton" truck with a full 6 foot bed.

Gotta admit, Ford must know something about trucks..... First Ford I have owned, although the SAAB I owned way back had a nice little V4 Ford engine that ran well too.
 
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