Hello, this is my first post.

I've been a Toyota Tacoma owner since 1997. I currently own a 2009 SR5 V6 TRD Access Cab.

I need more truck, mainly because of my two kids. The access cab just isn't going to cut it long term.

Thinking about getting on "the list" for a 2023 Ranger Raptor.

Is anybody else in here spying that truck?

Where will it likely fall price-wise?

How reliable is the 3.0L twin-turbo V6, and what will the MPG be?

Thanks for any replies!

Looking forward to (hopefully) becoming part of the Ranger community.

 

Welcome to the forum

The Eco-boost 3.0l twin-turbo has only been around since 2017 so not alot of history
But what there is has been good, no design flaws
The Ecoboost 2.7l was in 2015, almost the same engine and it has also been reliable

3.0l has direct injection so can/will get carbon build up on the intake valves(from blowby), one of the down sides of direct injection, back of intake valve doesn't get "washed" by incoming fuel, lol

Its a turbo so eats spark plugs, if you never had a turbo thats just what happens with boosted engine, if you normally change plugs every 80k miles plan on 40-50k miles, and change coil pack every other spark plug change


The 2019 and up Rangers seem to have very few issues overall, I have read about climate control issues
Also a few posts about flat-towing behind motor homes, the 4WD models shifting out of Neutral while on the road and frying the trans and transfer case, warranty issue but still lose the use of the truck

Raptor packages do send the price climbing because ALL car makers know people WILL spend a buttload of money on OPTIONS, lol
I think the F-series has a "Shelby Raptor" package that can double the price
2022 Rangers run $30k to $50k with full load, add maybe $10k for Raptor, not sure

2022 F-150 Raptor starts at $65k I think, Shelby Raptor is $120k I think

 

I'm eyeing the 2023 Ranger Raptor as well, just because it looks better than the current Ranger lineup, and more aggressive than the lesser trim versions for 2023. Time will tell what the price ends up being, but I personally won't be on the list for a new one and will likely wait a few more years to see how they do before I start the hunt for a used one.

 

I hear you.

…But I thought that the Ranger Raptor has been around a few years overseas and the only significance of 2023 is the landing on US soil. I could be wrong, though.

 

Great info, thanks.

I’m surprised they haven’t addressed the DFI fouling issue. How is that dealt with in terms of maintenance?

 

They always make changes to the US version from the overseas version. So what comes out overseas may not be what we see here. Case in point, the front bumper they changed for the US market.

The most recent Ranger we've had has been overseas for around 10 years already, so it's time for an overhaul. But judging from what I've seen, it's like 2006 all over again where they update the front grille, bumpers, mirrors, taillights, and badging, but the core truck and the body is still largely the same as it has been for ten years. I would like to see it squared off a little more with a larger back window, and I'd love for the 5' bed to be discontinued. They are starting to square it off a little more, but I don't think the 5' bed is going anywhere soon.

 

I feel like crew cab mid-size trucks should have 5.5’ beds.

 

The International T6 versions don't have to meet, so are not built for, the emissions and safety standards for US/Canada, and so can't be imported

Raptor is not just a "Looks" package although much of it is, the overseas parts may bolt on, not sure though

For the new Ranger to be viable in the US/Canada market it needs to remain smaller than the F-150, or not enough sales and no more Ranger
Same for MPG, needs to be, I would say 15-20%, better than F-150 or why go smaller
More power V6 may just kill the new Ranger, hopefully they keep the 4cyl

Yes, the carbon build up has been a known issue since Direct Injection was being used on gasoline engines
Its from oil vapors coming in from blow-by and PCV system, so a catch can can help
There are sprays you can use in a running engine that will clean the back of the valves, if carbon build up is not too bad
If it gets too built up, intake can be removed and walnut "shot" is power sprayed on/in the intake ports then vacuumed out

I think on some models with direct injection there are also Port Injectors that are used to keep the build up down, so washes the back of the valve now and then or constantly not sure on how that works

 

Most dealer ships have a $7k-$25k mark up on anything with Raptor badging. But the raptor may not be your best choice given your location. Build out a truck with the tremor package it will be in the $40k's, Or wait for the 2023's to come out. Ordering starts 07/18.

 

I have considered the new Ranger Raptor, but after personally seeing the off-road capability of the Tremor, I am pretty sure I will go that way. I may even go with a new FX4 and build it to a Tremor level because so far the Tremor doesn't come in a Supercab with the 6 ft bed, and that is what I want. I do want the V6, but I think that may only be available with the Ranger Raptor. I hope Ford eventually offers what I want.

The F-150 Raptor is more of a fast across he desert vehicle and not so good at rock crawling. I lead a group of Landcrulsers into the Maze section of Canyonlands National Park in Utah a few years ago. When we were coming back out from the Doll House area, we had to wait at least a half hour for a Raptor coming in that could not get up a section that none of us had any problem getting though before. They were stacking rocks so it could get up a moderate rock climbing incline. A couple guys with me commented to me as they finally got through that they should be embarrassed when they drive past my little Ranger knowing I had already been through there. My Ranger is just a near stock FX4 with 33" tires. Maybe the shorter wheel base helped.

 

Any updates on the 2023 Ranger Raptor?

Thanks.

 

Looking for more info as well. I contacted a few local dealers to inquire about ordering a Ranger Raptor. One dealership told me that orders are not available yet. A few others are trying to sell me a 2022 XLT model, etc.

 

Read two things over the weekend:

Not available in the US until 2023 (as a 2024 model) and a price of ~$85k.

Not sure if either of those are true, and not sure how anybody could possibly know the price a full year out.

 

$85K is pure craziness! I have seen numbers of around $51K, but as usual add another 10k to 15K for BS mark ups! Anyone paying 85K for a mid size rig needs their head examined.

 

If it's really $85k, I won't be buying one. That's a given.