06+ mirror hid a wire install
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the only wierd things is they wont work at all unless at least the parking lights are on. I know the front gets power when the lights are off, to blink but those wont..huh? IDK still cool as he double hokey sticks anyways..lol.
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If so, (and, again I'm working from memory here), the side marker lights get their power (and ground) differently depending on whether your parking lights are on/off, and whether the turn signal or 4-way flashers are on/off. This is inconsequential to the incadascent bulb in the side marker lights, but not inconsequential to the components in the mirror-mounted LED indicators -- a regular bulb will light no matter which lead is hot (+) or ground (-)... the LEDs will ONLY light if the hot and ground are connected to the proper points.
If you wired your LEDs up basically in parallel with the side marker lights, then they would only operate when the parking lights are on -- when the parking lights are off, the side markers flash "opposite" of the turn signal/4-way because the power/ground connections are reversed in that situation. The LEDs will not operate when the power/ground connections are reversed.
To determine if this is, in fact, what's going on with your setup, put a digital voltmeter on the two leads going to one of the LED mirror lights, and then turn your 4-ways or turn signal on. Put the red (+) lead of the voltmeter on the positive wire of the LED array, and the negative (-) lead of the voltmeter on the negative wire of the LED array. If you see the meter reading "-13.8 v" and "0.00 v" during testing, then that's the explanation. The LED array is expecting to see "+13.8 v" and "0.00 v". Now, turn the parking lights on and repeat the test. Does the polarity change?
SIDE NOTE: there are LEDs on the market that will work in both directions (essentially, they're two LEDs in opposite polarity; driven in one direction, one LED lights, driven in the other direction the other LED lights). it'd be cool to use something like this in your particular setup, where the "marker light" LEDs would be orange and the "turn signal/4-way" LEDs would be bright yellow. That'd be cool...
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I haven't done the mod, and I'm going from memory here on what I remember reading about it a couple years ago, but I'm guessing that you've done the blinking side marker light mod...
If so, (and, again I'm working from memory here), the side marker lights get their power (and ground) differently depending on whether your parking lights are on/off, and whether the turn signal or 4-way flashers are on/off. This is inconsequential to the incadascent bulb in the side marker lights, but not inconsequential to the components in the mirror-mounted LED indicators -- a regular bulb will light no matter which lead is hot (+) or ground (-)... the LEDs will ONLY light if the hot and ground are connected to the proper points.
If you wired your LEDs up basically in parallel with the side marker lights, then they would only operate when the parking lights are on -- when the parking lights are off, the side markers flash "opposite" of the turn signal/4-way because the power/ground connections are reversed in that situation. The LEDs will not operate when the power/ground connections are reversed.
To determine if this is, in fact, what's going on with your setup, put a digital voltmeter on the two leads going to one of the LED mirror lights, and then turn your 4-ways or turn signal on. Put the red (+) lead of the voltmeter on the positive wire of the LED array, and the negative (-) lead of the voltmeter on the negative wire of the LED array. If you see the meter reading "-13.8 v" and "0.00 v" during testing, then that's the explanation. The LED array is expecting to see "+13.8 v" and "0.00 v". Now, turn the parking lights on and repeat the test. Does the polarity change?
SIDE NOTE: there are LEDs on the market that will work in both directions (essentially, they're two LEDs in opposite polarity; driven in one direction, one LED lights, driven in the other direction the other LED lights). it'd be cool to use something like this in your particular setup, where the "marker light" LEDs would be orange and the "turn signal/4-way" LEDs would be bright yellow. That'd be cool...
If so, (and, again I'm working from memory here), the side marker lights get their power (and ground) differently depending on whether your parking lights are on/off, and whether the turn signal or 4-way flashers are on/off. This is inconsequential to the incadascent bulb in the side marker lights, but not inconsequential to the components in the mirror-mounted LED indicators -- a regular bulb will light no matter which lead is hot (+) or ground (-)... the LEDs will ONLY light if the hot and ground are connected to the proper points.
If you wired your LEDs up basically in parallel with the side marker lights, then they would only operate when the parking lights are on -- when the parking lights are off, the side markers flash "opposite" of the turn signal/4-way because the power/ground connections are reversed in that situation. The LEDs will not operate when the power/ground connections are reversed.
To determine if this is, in fact, what's going on with your setup, put a digital voltmeter on the two leads going to one of the LED mirror lights, and then turn your 4-ways or turn signal on. Put the red (+) lead of the voltmeter on the positive wire of the LED array, and the negative (-) lead of the voltmeter on the negative wire of the LED array. If you see the meter reading "-13.8 v" and "0.00 v" during testing, then that's the explanation. The LED array is expecting to see "+13.8 v" and "0.00 v". Now, turn the parking lights on and repeat the test. Does the polarity change?
SIDE NOTE: there are LEDs on the market that will work in both directions (essentially, they're two LEDs in opposite polarity; driven in one direction, one LED lights, driven in the other direction the other LED lights). it'd be cool to use something like this in your particular setup, where the "marker light" LEDs would be orange and the "turn signal/4-way" LEDs would be bright yellow. That'd be cool...
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Originally Posted by hozII
So is there a way to have it work all the time with constant and blink with lights on and blink with lights off? OR does it have to be one way or the other?
1. Obtain an LED array for the mirror that is wired like I laid out in the "SIDE NOTE" in my previous post.
2. Get a 12 V DPDT (double-pole, double-throw) relay and use that to switch the polarity of the leads going to the LED array on the mirror. You'd need one such relay wired up for each side of the truck.
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That i already have as in the vid i posted. What im sayin is they dont work at all unless the parking/headlights are on. maybe thats what your tryin to say and im being a DA...LOL!!!
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Originally Posted by htjunkie
I'm still trying to get mine to work with the lights on, and without them on!!
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