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hey bill what did they end up costing, did you get a ford discount. I think my drive side is starting to go, so I am going to go ahead and replace both of them.

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I paid 90 a peice and yes there was a ford discount involved. I just cant beleive everyone parts store I called could not get them.
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Your balljoints went out from your 33's I have 60,000 miles on my truck and I am just now having to replace them because I ripped all the boots putting my spindles on a while ago.
why would 33's or bigger tires wear them out faster?
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Bill do you have the ford part #'s.

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why would 33's or bigger tires wear them out faster?
the extra weight the offset of the tires causeing more stain on it. its anything over stock is causing more strain on it then what it was designed for stock, its the give and take of modding stock things wear out faster for the better look/performance
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Bill do you have the ford part #'s.

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Not yet, I will tommorrow though when they come in.
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I've checked at a few parts stores in the past. Nobody but the Ford dealer listed the one-piece PS UCA that is used on the 2003+. Some sell the 2-piece PS UCA for 98~2004 but it is much more expensive than the 1-piece DS UCA ($175 vs $105).

I stopped at a parts store today and their computer lists MOOG UCAs in both the 1-piece and 2-piece style, both for the PS of a 2003~2004 4x4 but nothing for the driver side at all! In an effort to get to the truth, the counter guy called MOOG but they told him that the two piece was for the DS only. Argh!
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call S&H brake in ann arbor , they have them.
734-994-3613
thats where i got mine.

the 2 peice for the passenger side is being phased out. they are replacing them with the one peice design and are avaiable now

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call S&H brake in ann arbor , they have them.
734-994-3613
thats where i got mine.

the 2 peice for the passenger side is beine phased out. they are replacing them with the one peice cesign and are avaiable
Thanks Mark but from what was posted above they have a different shaft size for the ball joint. I dont know this for sure but thats what is above. And Bob that is the same run around that I got, they could get one side and note the other.

I contacted RockAuto.com and they could get ACDelco replacements but there is a 12 day shipping delay, lets just say I dont wanna wait that long.
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there is only one shaft size, someone dosnt' know what there talking about.

there is only one upper control arm/balljoint listed in the moog catalog

call S&H brake tomorrow and ask for mike, tell him Mark Kruger told you to call him.
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there is only one shaft size, someone dosnt' know what there talking about.

there is only one upper control arm/balljoint listed in the moog catalog

call S&H brake tomorrow and ask for mike, tell him Mark Kruger told you to call him.
I would but I have already ordered and committed to the ones from Ford. I shall call him to get prices though. Thanks.
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heres the ONLY part numbers straight from MOOG
right one peice upper arm K80068
left one peice upper arm K8708T
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I would but I have already ordered and committed to the ones from Ford. I shall call him to get prices though. Thanks.
no ofence but why replace junk (trw) with more junk ?
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oh and make sure you wait until the truck is on the ground befor you tighten the upper arm to frame bolts. i have my own views on this and it has something to do with the uppers going bad and torsion bar adjustment lol.
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oh and make sure you wait until the truck is on the ground befor you tighten the upper arm to frame bolts. i have my own views on this and it has something to do with the uppers going bad and torsion bar adjustment lol.
I understand, I remember the conversation from awhile ago. I work on cars as well, just as you do so I know whats going on lol. Thanks for the tip though
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damn that sucks!
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heres the ONLY part numbers straight from MOOG
right one peice upper arm K80068
left one peice upper arm K8708T
Mark's info is right on the money. I stopped by S&H and they have the left and right 1-piece MOOG UCAs in stock. As stated, they are the same parts for Ranger A-arm 4x4s and 2WD Edge and the numbers are those that Mark posted. The only negative is the price - about $145 each retail.

Edit: Maybe I ticked someone off at S&H the first time I talked to them. The next time I went in, I got a different counter guy and the price was $115 and $120 for the PS and DS 1-piece arms.

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Mark's info is right on the money. I stopped by S&H and they have the left and right 1-piece MOOG UCAs in stock. As stated, they are the same parts for Ranger A-arm 4x4s and 2WD Edge and the numbers are those that Mark posted. The only negative is the price - about $145 each retail.
So Moog list one control arm part number and its for the one side. Are both control arms the same as you would just order two of the same????? Its a little late now but oh well.
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no ofence but why replace junk (trw) with more junk ?
Becuase the joints are to the point of if I dont replace them there is a good chance my wheels is going to lay out flat on the ground. Everyone I talked to said that MOOG did not have one for the one side so thats why I ordered through Ford. I also dont have any free weekends coming up soon so it needs to be done. Oh and they were 60 dollars less a peice.
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So Moog list one control arm part number and its for the one side. Are both control arms the same as you would just order two of the same????? Its a little late now but oh well.
No, the right and left are different but the 4x4 torsion bar UCA's and the 4x2 torsion bar UCA's are listed with the same pair of numbers that Mark posted.
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thsi is really confusing, mine is a two piece design on the PS and one piece on the drivers side.

so these numbers will work on both 2wd and 4wd torsion bar rangers whether mine are 2 piece or one piece?

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right one peice upper arm K80068
left one peice upper arm K8708T
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The DS UCA has been one piece since the introduction of the torsion bar suspension in 98. Ford switched from the 2-piece UCA to one piece UCA on the PS sometime in 2003MY. My 2003 has a 5/03 build date and it has one piece on both sides. The 2-piece has the advantage of allowing more independence between the caster and camber adjustment. The one piece arm is simpler and cheaper.

Also, to the best of my knowledge, when you buy an aftermarket replacement part for the balljoint on the PS, you only get one part of the two piece arm, the part that actually carries the ball joint.

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FWIW, I just did a Google search on the part numbers and this appears to be the situation. Note that these numbers are for with Rangers with torsion bar suspension ONLY (98+ 4x4, 2000 Trailhead, 2001+ Edge).


DS one-piece UCA 98~2006:
(MOOG K8708T):

UCA w/replaceable/greasable ball joint


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PS one-piece UCA 2003 1/2~2006:
(MOOG K80068)

UCA w/replaceable/greasable ball joint
Similar appearance to K8708T above but with slightly different ball joint offset.


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PS 2-piece style ball joint carrier only 98~2003 1/2
(MOOG K8710T) :

Carrier w/replaceable/greasable ball joint
Note: this part is discontinued and may not be available. The entire 2-piece PS UCA assembly can be replaced by the 1-piece K80068.


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Lower ball joint only 98+
Greasable, fits DS and PS
(MOOG K8695T)


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Outer tie rod ends
Greasable, fits DS and PS
(MOOG ES3461)

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The DS UCA has been one piece since the introduction of the torsion bar suspension in 98. Ford switched from the 2-piece UCA to one piece UCA on the PS sometime in 2003MY. My 2003 has a 5/03 build date and it has one piece on both sides. The 2-piece has the advantage of allowing more independence between the caster and camber adjustment. The one piece arm is simpler and cheaper.

Also, to the best of my knowledge, when you buy an aftermarket replacement part for the balljoint on the PS, you only get one part of the two piece arm, the part that actually carries the ball joint.
oh ok, see that makes more sense, i read this statement posted earlier and it confused me even more lol


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I stopped at a parts store today and their computer lists MOOG UCAs in both the 1-piece and 2-piece style, both for the PS of a 2003~2004 4x4 but nothing for the driver side at all! In an effort to get to the truth, the counter guy called MOOG but they told him that the two piece was for the DS only. Argh!

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FWIW, I just did a Google search on the part numbers and this appears to be the situation:


DS one-piece UCA 98~2006:
(MOOG K8708T):



PS one-piece UCA 2003 1/2~2006:
(MOOG K80068)

Similar appearance to K8708T above but with slightly different ball joint offset.

PS 2-piece style ball joint carrier only 98~2003 1/2
(MOOG K8710T) :


PERFECT! On my 03 i need that last one pictured, thanks Bob, i just did a print screeb of that.
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Old 08-26-2006
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call S&H brake in ann arbor , they have them.
734-994-3613
thats where i got mine.

the 2 peice for the passenger side is being phased out. they are replacing them with the one peice design and are avaiable now
i hate to quote myself.

the two peice is not being made anymore, whats left is whats left, after that there all gone!, from MOOG anyway.
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