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2x4 suspension lift 2004 double cab

OK guys, go easy on me.
I have a Ranger double cab 2.8L 2004. Made in Argentina (I live in Argentina). Lift kits are too expensive due to the import tax (Christina aka turkey neck, has banned most imports now anyway).
So I need the cheapest/Easiest options to raise the truck as much as possible.

I already turned the torsion bar to almost max. So what can I do to get the front even higher?
The rear keeps breaking leaf springs. I am on rough dirt roads 20% of the time.I drive on Farms that are anything but flat.
I have bigger tyres on the 15" rims already at the rear (31"). I may look into bigger rims, what size will fit?
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since you have a 2x4 with torsion bars id suggest lift spindles. or you could get a body lift which is cheaper.
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since you have a 2x4 with torsion bars id suggest lift spindles. or you could get a body lift which is cheaper.
No spindles on T-bars.

Just crank the tbars or bodylift.
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2wd with torsion bars do have spindles as well. theres edge spindles and xlt spindles. tbar and coil sprung ones.
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2wd with torsion bars do have spindles as well. theres edge spindles and xlt spindles. tbar and coil sprung ones.
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yup they have them. but a body lift is best. and get some chevy 64 leafs.
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Oh yeah. My bad. lol
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Body lift out of the question i'm afraid. Ok so spindles (if I can get them). If I can't (most likely) any other spindles that may fit?
mine is not an XLT but an XL plus. any difference?
re: Chevy leafsprings. what model will suit best do you think? will i need to change anything or will they slip in?
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Quite honestly, if you are breaking leaf springs because of rough roads I would avoid lift spindles. There have been too many documented cases of them failing. If you're breaking leafs, you're sure to break the spindles IMO.

A body lift is the only other option, unfortunately.
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Oh I see. So i don't have many options for the front then.
What about a 16" or 17" wheel?
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16" should fit, most rangers come stock with 16's
17"s might fit too. But with each wheel size you go up, you won't be able to run as big of a tire.
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what chevy springs do you think i should look for? we have the S10 here or will something else be better. It seems to be the second leaf (from the top down) out of 4 that breaks for some reason. Is this a common fault do you know.
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16" should fit, most rangers come stock with 16's
17"s might fit too. But with each wheel size you go up, you won't be able to run as big of a tire.
running a 33x12.5R15 is the same as running a 33x12.5R17 so you're wrong. the only difference is the opening on the tire is larger.
At stock height, he'll be restricted to the same sizes, regardless the size of the wheel



and to the OP, increasing wheel size doesn't give you lift. increasing tire size does.
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I was thinking that if I go up to 16" or even 17" I would be able to get higher tyres that I wouldn't be able to get with a 15". I am already on 32 x 11.5's. The 11.5 is a couple of mm too wide for the stock rim but it's OK.
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16" should fit, most rangers come stock with 16's
17"s might fit too. But with each wheel size you go up, you won't be able to run as big of a tire.
I have 17s and 35s. Evan Highroller had 20s and 37s
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I have 17s and 35s. Evan Highroller had 20s and 37s
I should have added.
unless you lift, you won't be able to go bigger with the tires if you go bigger with wheels.
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Just wondering how much weight do you haul?? The Rangers can haul up to 1 ton, but I don't think they'd take it much if you do so often.

I think you could get some 32s, but with 16in wheels and with more backspacing than stock. I don't think there are 32s for a 15 in. wheel (which is what your stock wheel is, a 15x7, right?) With your tbars cranked all the way, the 32s would fit without a body lift, but I'm pretty sure they'd hit the front gap guards, which would require some trimming... 31s = 2in tire lift (from stock). 32s = 3in tire lift (from stock).

If you want to level the truck, you could remove one leaf from the rear, but I don't know how much it'd affect the truck's hauling capability, since the leafs on your truck seem to break constantly...

Btw, truck is from Argentina, dude. Ford manufactures the double/crew cab Ranger there. There's a guy here, Comunistico, he has done tons of work to his truck. Check his threads to see if you can find something to help you out...
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once in a while a may have 500KG, but only about 5 times a year. I think it is simply the dirt roads and potholes. I know the road well so i don't slow down much, takes it's toll i suppose.

I also have a feeling the last mechanic down here bent the leafs to make it a bit higher...Could that cause them to break?

I just updated the 1st post..thanks, they are made in Argentina....maybe that's why it's breaking springs

I have 32 BFG's on the 15" rears at the moment. I just never found another set for the front...hey..it's Argentina....

since they are all wearing at the same rate I was thinking of replacing them all at once for something bigger. If i have more options with a bigger wheel then i'll try a 16 or maybe 17" but the advice so far seems to be I will need a lift to fit those. I like the sound of the 17x 35's or 20 x 37's!!!

Is there any way I can lift the body without buying a kit? I have a good workshop and access to tools and welding equipment.
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I found some S10 rear leaf springs and swapped them last week. They went on perfectly. Lifted the back about 5 inches though. The shackles swung forward and then up to it's max position.

The shocks I suspect now need to be replaced as the ride is horrible. Really bouncy! Or should a remove a leaf? If i remove a leaf which one?

I turned the Tbars up to max and put the 32"s up front to see what they looked like. I think I could put 33"s in no problem without a trim. So I may look at 35"s (are there 34"s?). 35"s will fit in the rear no problem with these springs.
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Yeah you need new shocks if you have 5" of lift.
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I took a better look today and I don't like the fact the shackles are so far forward and up. I am going to lengthen them by 2-3" i think. Any opinions welcome.

I was told to measure the distance of the shock as it is now on the truck (or after the new shackles) and add 3/4 of that length to the original distance and buy that length in a new shock. Yes or no?
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I took a better look today and I don't like the fact the shackles are so far forward and up. I am going to lengthen them by 2-3" i think. Any opinions welcome.

I was told to measure the distance of the shock as it is now on the truck (or after the new shackles) and add 3/4 of that length to the original distance and buy that length in a new shock. Yes or no?
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