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Spindle lift on '05 Edge 4x2

I recently purchansed some 265/ 75/ r16 tires. I went to have them put on my truck and the guys here in San Diego say they will rub and possibly mess up my plactics. They recomended a spindle lift in the front but the rear has plenty of clearance. I don't want to mess up my truck since I've had it less than two months. I do like that baja style look but with just a slight offset. Not all crazy. Any suggestions?

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Your truck hads the t-bar...

You crank that up it will clear it...

My truck with 265's with alot of T-bar crank...



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Thanks Bigwill. Excuse my ignorance since I am new to trucks but won't that effect my alignment and wear my tires?


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Some say get a alignment after the T-bar crank...

But I didn't and I don't have uneven wear on my tires...

Show pics of your truck...
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I recently purchansed some 265/ 75/ r16 tires. I went to have them put on my truck and the guys here in San Diego say they will rub and possibly mess up my plactics. They recomended a spindle lift in the front but the rear has plenty of clearance. I don't want to mess up my truck since I've had it less than two months. I do like that baja style look but with just a slight offset. Not all crazy. Any suggestions?

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Ok so I promise I'm not trying to be an ***, but a 2x4 is a cut of lumber. A 4x2 is a two wheel drive truck. :)
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Ok so I promise I'm not trying to be an ***, but a 2x4 is a cut of lumber. A 4x2 is a two wheel drive truck. :)
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Nick do you have aol...

What the username...
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Spindles are great. You can get Doetsch spindles, shipped, for just over $300.00. I'm getting mine from SuspensionMax.com. Their website is under reconstruction so you have to call them. The site lists the phone number though.

I've found that there is no way you DON'T get uneven tire wear from the torsion bar crank. You may not notice it at first, but you will when the tires get more worn.

Know why? We have the "SLA" (short-long-arm) suspension that has a shorter upper arm than the lower arm. As your suspension cycles DOWN, this causes the camber to go negative (bottom of wheel sticking out more than the top). This eventually wears your tires down.

It's takes a cam kit to correct it and most shops charge extra for that. When you get a wheel alignment the only thing they adjust is the toe-in, typically.

So, spindles will allow you to keep your full suspension travel, with near zero camber at rest. An ideal situation if what you want is 3" of lift with the factory ride.

A torsion bar crank will give you negative camber (no matter what anyone says -- it's impossible for it NOT to) that will cause uneven wear. Only a cam kit for the upper arms will fix that.

I know this because I've been riding with a torsion crank for 30,000 miles plus now, and the wear is very visible on the tire.
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Thanks n3elz! 2 more questions. How difficult is it to install the spindles and do I only have a choice of the 3" lift? I'm assuming the 3" looks the best, correct?
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It's tough to get anymore than 3.5" because there's no more room to move the axle shaft further down on the spindle.

Basically, you stock spindle has the axle shaft mounted to the spindle just under halfway down it's length. The lift spindles give you a new spindle with the shaft very near the bottom.

I believe Fabtechs are 3.5", and there are really heavy duty spindle-and-arm replacements from Camburg (I think it's them). But generally all of them are around 3".

The spindles are pretty easy to install, really, if you've basically handy with automotive tools. There are install instructions online at Fabtech and other places. I think 4wheelparts.com has install instructions linked from their ProComp spindle listings.

Just make sure you verify that the spindles you get work on an Edge model if that's what you have. Apparently there are some differences that some spindle brands need to take into account between the Edge and the XLT (2WD). The Doetsch are reputed to fit both.
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Thanks n3elz, you own!
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i didnt know suspension max had a website...but they do have ebay!!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WD1V
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Yes, they do now. But they haven't had the spindles ALONE up for sale. Their price for spindles plus blocks is about $300 (without shipping). But it's $259 without the blocks (the quote I got) so add in shipping and it's back to just over $300.
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i didnt know suspension max had a website...but they do have ebay!!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WD1V
Would you guys recomend that kit?

edit: DAMN, "WILL NOT WORK WITH STOCK RIMS". I have the 16" alloy 5 spoke rims and planned on using them. That kit won't work!

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Just spoke with the dude at suspensionmax.com. They will do the whole lift kit (spindles and rear lift) for $525 installed and I can keep all my stock stuff! w00t w00t!!
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Just spoke with the dude at suspensionmax.com. They will do the whole lift kit (spindles and rear lift) for $525 installed and I can keep all my stock stuff! w00t w00t!!
Way to go!
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heh......2x4, you drive wood
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heh......2x4, you drive wood

Welcome to yesterday.
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Welcome to yesterday.
According to his post, and the previous post stating YOUR error, it had only been 12 hours.

In Texas, a day is 24 hrs.
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According to his post, and the previous post stating YOUR error, it had only been 12 hours.

In Texas, a day is 24 hrs.
But don't you guys in Texas do everything bigger? There's the confusion!
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According to his post, and the previous post stating YOUR error, it had only been 12 hours.

In Texas, a day is 24 hrs.
YesterDAY and yester24hour period are different. Something can happen one second and then the next second the same thing happen and I can say "The same thing happened yesterday."

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