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get the d60 now otherwise you will be losing money with a 44 and then doin a 60
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get the d60 now otherwise you will be losing money with a 44 and then doin a 60
if the D60 only needs gears for 1200 then that is a steal. if it needs overhauled then the D44 will be cheaper
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hahahaha
well he said its from a 78-79 F250, High Pinion. i think i found the front axle


yea knowing me i might just shatter a D44 too.. but a D60 is just going to be a plow.

Parts mike has the whole kit for high steer for a D44 for $700 no linkage, no "kits" for the D60 but they have just the knuckles for $600
Crane High Clearance has a kit for D60s but i need to call and get a price
sky manufacturing will machine a D44 knuckle for $45

edit, let me throw Reid Racing? on there.. 259 a knuckle

who else makes high steer knuckles? a lot of places i look only carry the steering arms for high steer. BTF and Poison Spider, WFO concepts.

then theres the damn Yodas, like Trail Ready, who sell the knuckles and arms and all that for 500, then an extra 200 buys all the linkage lol

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if the D60 only needs gears for 1200 then that is a steal. if it needs overhauled then the D44 will be cheaper
i was planning on putting all new bearings and seals in the axles i chose..
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good god ....well add another chapter to the saga.......
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ha

i think companies should send me stuff and see if it survives 6 months, this **** made it what... 8 and a half months?
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i just like scouts.. i dont know why

i could get a D60 for ~1000-1200
then i have to get gears, leaves, steering box, i want to do high steer at the beginning just because i dont want to bend any tubing for the steering. then the rest of the list i've been accumulating.

maybe i'll get the 60 now and as many parts as i can get... if i cant get em all then w/e it just gives me more time to clean and setup the axles


a complete front D60 for $1200 sounds about right doesn't it?
i need to call him and see what it came from

then the whole issue of being up in Prime wheelin country and not wheelin the entire year i was here.. that would suck lol

Get ahold of Highhonda on pirate. He speciallizes in Used D60's.

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=670313

His front 60's are usually 800 plus shipping.

his website is: http://www.extremeaxlesales.com/
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hahahaha
well he said its from a 78-79 F250, High Pinion. i think i found the front axle


yea knowing me i might just shatter a D44 too.. but a D60 is just going to be a plow.

Parts mike has the whole kit for high steer for a D44 for $700 no linkage, no "kits" for the D60 but they have just the knuckles for $600
Crane High Clearance has a kit for D60s but i need to call and get a price
sky manufacturing will machine a D44 knuckle for $45

edit, let me throw Reid Racing? on there.. 259 a knuckle

who else makes high steer knuckles? a lot of places i look only carry the steering arms for high steer. BTF and Poison Spider, WFO concepts.

then theres the damn Yodas, like Trail Ready, who sell the knuckles and arms and all that for 500, then an extra 200 buys all the linkage lol

You dont need special knuckles for a kingpin D60 front. You just need high steer arms. They bolt onto the stock knuckles.
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whats shipping on a 3-400 lb axle though? lol
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You dont need special knuckles for a kingpin D60 front. You just need high steer arms. They bolt onto the stock knuckles.
thanks

i wasn't sure
i asked a few Heep buddies and one said he thought so, one said he had no clue lol
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whats shipping on a 3-400 lb axle though? lol
Not as much as you would think. I would shoot Highonda an Email and see what he can do for prices. Hes very highly regarded on pirate. I have heard nothing but praise about him. His "local" to me at about 2.5 hours away. If and when I step up in axles I will most likely be having him build me a front 60.
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i wasn't sure
i asked a few Heep buddies and one said he thought so, one said he had no clue lol
a front 60 requires less to run then a D44. The initial cost is just more.

Highsteer arms
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35 spline outers and Hubs

Ford front 60's are 35 spline inners already and if your running a 37 or so tire you can get away with the stock 30 spline outers. Its when you get into the 40" range that you start to pop 30 spline outers.

I would also just skip the D60 rear and go straight to a D70. most ford D70's have 35 spline stock with a 10.5" ring gear. They use the exact same Diff cover as a D60 so they can be shaved to D60 clearance.
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Hahah. a D60 should be fine for 38s shouldn't it?
In the initial stages of the SAS I'll have the rear spooled and probably keep the front open.

i dont see my self getting much bigger anytime soon..
I'll consider a D70 rear once i get the front axle in my possession

so to shave a 70 you just go around the diff cover line on the bottom I take it? thats how I've seen 60s shaved
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Hahah. a D60 should be fine for 38s shouldn't it?
In the initial stages of the SAS I'll have the rear spooled and probably keep the front open.

i dont see my self getting much bigger anytime soon..
I'll consider a D70 rear once i get the front axle in my possession

so to shave a 70 you just go around the diff cover line on the bottom I take it? thats how I've seen 60s shaved
Yea my D70 had a lip on the bottom, If I had ground that lip off it would have been the same as a 60.
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how much do 70s run?

I've never really even thought about running one so i never looked
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GO WHEEL MORE!!! You still got 1 good one!
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how much do 70s run?

I've never really even thought about running one so i never looked
I bought my front 60 and rear 70 for 1100 for the pair. A rear 70 is usually around the same price as a rear 60.
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take a hard right turn and 3wheel tha damn thing
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but with a D60 you are going to need new wheels and tires. i have heard there is some type of kit someone makes to allow you to run a 15" wheel on the D60, i dont know the cost.

when you add wheels and tires into the cost the D44 is going to be cheaper because he already has good wheels and tires.
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theres a guy back home with a YJ running 15s on a D60/14B. If i can pull it off i'll do a 60 if not its a D44.
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but with a D60 you are going to need new wheels and tires. i have heard there is some type of kit someone makes to allow you to run a 15" wheel on the D60, i dont know the cost.

when you add wheels and tires into the cost the D44 is going to be cheaper because he already has good wheels and tires.
He needs new wheels anyways, His truck isnt 8 lug.
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theres a guy back home with a YJ running 15s on a D60/14B. If i can pull it off i'll do a 60 if not its a D44.
Dana 44's came in an 8 lug version also. Those would allow for 15" wheels.

I say for the wheeling that he does, a good Dana 44 would be fine; espically if it has the proper internals. Parts are cheaper for a 44 than they are a 60.
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All prices except original Axle prices were found on vendors websites. this is just a rough estimate but it shows Just how close in price the Two axles can be.

dana 60:
Axle $1000
gears $200
install kit $140
35 Spline Outers $90 each
35 Spline Hubs $150

Total 1670

dana 44:
Axle Roughly $350
Gears: $170
Install kit: $130
Full Chromo Axle Kit: $400
U joints: $300 for the pair

Total 1350
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We can even solve the rim problem.
4 Hummer Beadlocks $200 dollars
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He needs new wheels anyways, His truck isnt 8 lug.
but i can get 15x10 8 lug steelies for what, $60 each at that size? then i dont need new tires unless i can find a deal on craigslist

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We can even solve the rim problem.
4 Hummer Beadlocks $200 dollars
wheels aren't the issue, i know i can get cheap wheels, tires is where it gets pricey

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All prices except original Axle prices were found on vendors websites. this is just a rough estimate but it shows Just how close in price the Two axles can be.

dana 60:
Axle $1000
gears $200
install kit $140
35 Spline Outers $90 each
35 Spline Hubs $150

Total 1670

dana 44:
Axle Roughly $350
Gears: $170
Install kit: $130
Full Chromo Axle Kit: $400
U joints: $300 for the pair

Total 1350
stock 60s are good for what tire?
im looking at 37s, maybe 38s
i want to keep it low
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