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Do all of the bolts require Two flat washers a lock washer and nut ?
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Im still waiting on my hardware... I was told i would get it shipped to me about 3 or 4 weeks ago. I just got back from vacation and still nothing.........
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That's sucks that y'alls stuff didn't come with hardware.

My stuff came last week, not impressed. Stuff's not centered, splatter not cleaned off, just looks rushed imo. Let's hope they fit.

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i havent gotten anything yet im waiting of the brackets still!!
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Do all of the bolts require Two flat washers a lock washer and nut ?
I would use Grade 8 hardware and two flat washers and a nyloc nut.

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Your right on the lock nut instead of the lock washer which tend to split and fall out.

Use the metal grade 8 lock nut instead of the Nylocs.

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I still need two bolt lengths, but here's what I'm going to use:

4 - 1/2 x 2 3/4 Grade 8 Bolts
6 - 1/2 x ?? Grade 8 Bolts
8 - 3/8 x ?? Grade 8 Bolts

20 - 1/2 Grade 8 Flat Washers
16 - 3/8 Grade 8 Flat Washers

10 - 1/2 Grade 8 Nyloc Nuts
8 - 1/2 Grade 8 Nyloc Nuts

I will update the list tomorrow when I get the bolts.
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I still need two bolt lengths, but here's what I'm going to use:

4 - 1/2 x 2 3/4 Grade 8 Bolts
6 - 1/2 x ?? Grade 8 Bolts
8 - 3/8 x ?? Grade 8 Bolts

20 - 1/2 Grade 8 Flat Washers
16 - 3/8 Grade 8 Flat Washers

10 - 1/2 Grade 8 Nyloc Nuts
8 - 1/2 Grade 8 Nyloc Nuts

I will update the list tomorrow when I get the bolts.
Thanks, appreciate the trouble.
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That's sucks that y'alls stuff didn't come with hardware.

My stuff came last week, not impressed. Stuff's not centered, splatter not cleaned off, just looks rushed imo. Let's hope they fit.
yeah, I was disapointed in the quality of the welds in general. I know they will work, but they sure dont look very good.

I was also told that they were supposed to come with hardware... obviously that didnt happen. lol

Oh well.
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KLC, you rock! thanks for taking the time to post that info!
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Hardware needed to install:

4- 1/2"x3" (shock bolts)
4- 1/2"x1.25 (upper bracket drilled holes through back)
2- 1/2"x2.25 (upper shock mount through top)
8- 3/8"x1.25 (lower bracket)

10- 1/2" metal lock nuts
20- 1/2" steel grade 8 washers

8- 3/8" metal lock nuts
16- 3/8" steel grade 8 washers

ALL HARDWARE SHOULD BE GRADE 8
This is what I was able to research for you guys to make things a little easier. Do you guys think that this should be something ORW should offer with the shocks if Jacob isn't so that you have everything at the time of installation.
-Nick
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Nick,
IMHO...
It is a nice thought but the only thing I can see that you might want to consider would be the actual shock mounting bolts, ORW has no responsibility to supply a kit of bolt for special kit.
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Do you guys think that this should be something ORW should offer with the shocks if Jacob isn't so that you have everything at the time of installation.
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I think this is a great idea. I know I would have bought the kit.

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It is a nice thought but the only thing I can see that you might want to consider would be the actual shock mounting bolts, ORW has no responsibility to supply a kit of bolt for special kit.
I don't think Nick is offering the bolts free of charge, just as an added option.
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I think this is a great idea. I know I would have bought the kit.
Yes it would be a great idea.

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I don't think Nick is offering the bolts free of charge, just as an added option.
Yes, I understood that.
ORW is nice to offer but then again how many Bolt Kits would they sell, how many people will make a Coil-Over Brkt Kit just like Jacob’s, how many of the people that buy the Coil-Over Brkt Kit will buy the Bolt Kit or how many are already installed. Most guys want to get their own bolts because of the way they want it to look or work or for some other guy reason.
My statement was about the feasibility for ORW nothing more.
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Yes, I understood that.
ORW is nice to offer but then again how many Bolt Kits would they sell, how many people will make a Coil-Over Brkt Kit just like Jacob’s, how many of the people that buy the Coil-Over Brkt Kit will buy the Bolt Kit or how many are already installed. Most guys want to get their own bolts because of the way they want it to look or work or for some other guy reason.
My statement was about the feasibility for ORW nothing more.
Okay, I see what your point was now. Although I assume that ORW has the bolts readily available given their specialty, which means it does not matter how many they sell. Then again maybe I am completely off base. I am sure you've noticed that ORW is all about customer service, this is just another example.

As you can tell I am an ORW fan.
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ORW sounds awesome!


Anybody else see this on RPS in reference to these brackets?

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I don't post much on the forums any more but this has drawn my attention. I have to agree with Matt here. There are several key problems. Those pinholes over time with stress with turn into cracks and other problems, where the undercut is there is also a good oppourtunity for a crack to form and the part to fail. With metal that thick it would have been wise to weld a single bead as your "root" pass, with two/three welds covering that forming the face. While not as pretty as a single pass it would have been much safer. Whoever welded and fabricated these parts really needs to go back and learn some fundamentals before he/she makes more parts. I say all of this for your safety,as well as, if your gonna put all this time and money into coilovers you want them to function correctly as well as to hold up over time right? With these brackets they will not stand up, I repeat WILL NOT stand up. Please do not take offense to this as that is not my intent. Just trying let you know about what will happen.

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I'm no expert but I'd have to say I agree.
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No, that's the first I've seen that thread and post. I took care of those potential issues with mine before I had them powdercoated.
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I can say no-one is perfect, and my bracket's are fixed and hopefully will be on the truck this weekend. I started that thread, and I was really surprised at how ridiculous people can get. As I stated in that thread. THe ranger forums on the net are supposed to be a place for sharing mods, maintenance. What goes on over on RPS seems to be some drama.
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ok ive spent half an hour trying to find what im looking for but apparently I'm blind... can anyone tell me the shock size? I'm planning on ordering them this weekend. thanks
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OFF ROAD WAREHOUSE WILL NOW BE OFFERING THE COIL-OVER CONVERSION BRACKETS AND HARDWARE.

I just received an e-mail from Jacob yesterday asking me if ORW would be interested in making the coil-over conversion brackets. I told him that this has been something that we had started to look into, like some of you know and should be finished this week. I'm hopping to have a few sets cut out by Saturday and have more available in 2wks. The parts will all be cut out using a water jet and then mig welded. Should be a nice piece when finished. The cost should be relatively close to the same, with the exception that they will come with hardware. As soon as I get a price, you guys will be the first to know.
I'm also thinking of offering a package deal with the shocks which will offer even more savings for RF members that are still interested in doing the conversion.

Thanks
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OFF ROAD WAREHOUSE WILL NOW BE OFFERING THE COIL-OVER CONVERSION BRACKETS AND HARDWARE.

I just received an e-mail from Jacob yesterday asking me if ORW would be interested in making the coil-over conversion brackets. I told him that this has been something that we had started to look into, like some of you know and should be finished this week. I'm hopping to have a few sets cut out by Saturday and have more available in 2wks. The parts will all be cut out using a water jet and then mig welded. Should be a nice piece when finished. The cost should be relatively close to the same, with the exception that they will come with hardware. As soon as I get a price, you guys will be the first to know.
I'm also thinking of offering a package deal with the shocks which will offer even more savings for RF members that are still interested in doing the conversion.

Thanks
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I want them so definately keep me posted on a price for the entire kit, thanks!
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I want them so definately keep me posted on a price for the entire kit, thanks!
Hey, contact Nick at ORW he will help you with the Coil-Over Size.

Hopefully you will be buying them from him.
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I can say no-one is perfect, and my bracket's are fixed and hopefully will be on the truck this weekend. I started that thread, and I was really surprised at how ridiculous people can get. As I stated in that thread. THe ranger forums on the net are supposed to be a place for sharing mods, maintenance. What goes on over on RPS seems to be some drama.
Drama?

More like a group of guys with more experience in the welding department than Shadow. I'm in the process of learning how to weld and they look like that...
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that doesn't mean you have to act like an ***...like some of them did. There's a difference in explaining to someone a fault they identify, passing on knowledge AND being cocky, imature, and rude. That's what I didn't like. The way they came across was wrong.
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