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Keys and shackles?

i saw this on ebay and was wondering if it will work? what are the pro's and cons of this kit?
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doing keys is going to get you where crankin the bars would. it starts you off at the same height that you would be at or almost at full crank. which means crappy ball joint angles.

shackles should work. but i dont know of anyone with that shackle. id get the belltech/ground force shackle to make sure it will work.
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It's like putting a bandaid on a big laceration... More trouble than it's worth. Like Chris said, the keys are the same idea as cranking the torsion bars, and if you do it wrong or tighten them too much, you'll be in for a harsh ride and lots of bad ball joints. I'd go with a set of shackles that didn't come on ebay too.
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I like the beltech shackles. I'm runnin them and they are great, no probs thus far.

They weren't too pricey either
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my little brothers got those plus a 3" body lift. 35 with no rubing. and the torsin bars are tighten at factory hieght.
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i used those shackles on my old 99, actually were alittle smaller then the belltech shackles, but nothing major


and id personally like to run the keys, i see everyone ******* them, but no one saying they ran them. cant knock it to you try it
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hmmm.....soo would you reccomend these for say a 2 inch lift?? how bad are we talking on the ball joints?
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ill take some pics tomorrow or somethin
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i wonder if flipping those keys would give me 1-3" of drop instead of lift
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i've heard nothin but bad stuff about keys, bad ball joints and cv joints, i have an inch and a half t-bar crank and am getting belltech shackles to bring the rear back up
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i wonder if flipping those keys would give me 1-3" of drop instead of lift

Thats an interesting thought.
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what if one of your tbars is already cranked all the way. i can see the preload is pushed all the way up the other bar has about an inch and a half before its fully loaded.. would i need keys or new tbars? im thinking the one thats cranked all the way is becasue the tbar is worn out. what do yuo guys recomend?

i got a bl i want 2" of lift from the suspention also.. so beltech shackles and a tbar crank seem to be the best and cheapest way to acomplish this.

let me know what i need to do..

also i wana know if my james duff trac bars will work thith the shackels.

thanks
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How many miles on the truck? What bars do you have now? Stay away from those 'lift' keys. they do nothing for our trucks but damage. The juice is not worth the squeeze. One bar should be cranked more than the other due to the 'ranger lean'.

Duff bars will work with the shackles, as i'm running them and the shackles with an aal. The shackles gave me 1.5" lift. Id go to #1 bars if you don't have them, and crank them up some. I only got approx 1.75" total lift by cranking worn out saggy b-bars.

way to bump a 2yr old thread. lol.
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yeah sry. i figured theres so many topics ont his why create another thread. i been searching alot about these shackels and im trying to understand how easy it is to do the lift.

i have an XLT with the 4.0 im assuming i have #1 tbars but i dont know. if i dont then i will get them. (i ned them if im gona crank anyways since one is obviusly sagged)

if i get new tbars i want to keep the same hight i have right now untill i crank them im assuming i just messure the wheel gap and set the new tbars to the same hight then work from there.

question 1.
where do i get #1 tbars?
question2.
how hard is the shackle install?
and question 3.
will i need longer travaling shocks for the rear and front after teh lift?

i have more questions but to ask all of them its gona take all night i want a break down of what i need to do.

thanx
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yeah sry. i figured theres so many topics ont his why create another thread. i been searching alot about these shackels and im trying to understand how easy it is to do the lift.

i have an XLT with the 4.0 im assuming i have #1 tbars but i dont know. if i dont then i will get them. (i ned them if im gona crank anyways since one is obviusly sagged)

if i get new tbars i want to keep the same hight i have right now untill i crank them im assuming i just messure the wheel gap and set the new tbars to the same hight then work from there.

question 1.
where do i get #1 tbars?
question2.
how hard is the shackle install?
and question 3.
will i need longer travaling shocks for the rear and front after teh lift?

i have more questions but to ask all of them its gona take all night i want a break down of what i need to do.

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1. go look at door tag to see if you have number one t-bars.. if not go to Ford with a part number.. you can search to find these part number in the forums.. i think my door says 1C under suspension or something.. meaning i have them cause i have an fx4 lvl II.. i dont know what you have..

2. Dont do the key lift its a bad idea.. the shackle part i dont know much about..


3. I dont think you would need longer shocks at all.. there is alot of unused travel in shocks so they should flex for it.. otherwise they make shocks for 1 - 3 inch lifts.
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yeah sry. i figured theres so many topics ont his why create another thread. i been searching alot about these shackels and im trying to understand how easy it is to do the lift.

i have an XLT with the 4.0 im assuming i have #1 tbars but i dont know. if i dont then i will get them. (i ned them if im gona crank anyways since one is obviusly sagged)

if i get new tbars i want to keep the same hight i have right now untill i crank them im assuming i just messure the wheel gap and set the new tbars to the same hight then work from there.

question 1.
where do i get #1 tbars?
question2.
how hard is the shackle install?
and question 3.
will i need longer travaling shocks for the rear and front after teh lift?

i have more questions but to ask all of them its gona take all night i want a break down of what i need to do.

thanx

What jay said....look at your door tag for your spring rates. Under "SPR" would be a 11CC or BK or BBCC or something similar. first set of digits woudl be your front spring rate. Second set is your rear spring rate. Spring rates are chosen depending on equipment optioned.

I bought my #1 bars from the local ford dealer for about $55 each. Part numbers are posted somehwere on the site, don't know them off hand. They are the highest spring rate avaliable for rangers, and help keep the 'lift' which you gainedfrom cranking. Less sagging would happen.

The shackles are an easy install...just gotta get the frame high enough off the ground to allow for more than full droop of the axle. I used maxed jackstands ontop of ramps. lol. kinda redneck but it got the job done.

New shocks won't be needed...it's only 1.5" of lift. Same goes for the front crank.
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is it worth it to do the lift?

so all i need is these right?
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

so at most its gona be like 200 bucks and i get a pretty decent lift ontop of my already 3" bl.. hmm i wana do this soon
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^^^^ 55 from ford it seems..
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yeah i posted before i saw his post.. i ninjad my post and wrote somthing compleatly different. i was hoping no one saw it haha
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that would be the shackles. I got 1.5" lift out of them. #1 bars cranked + shackles + bl + 33's is what RangerExtreme's set up is...and looks really really good.

I'd say under $200 for bars and shackles. do it!!
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Hey Steve, you have coil springs now not torsion bars...
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i used an ebay set that was just over $110 gave me 2'' up front and 1'' in the back and that was keys and shackles, front rides rougher but no big deal. i just took some flex pictures of mine this weekend. lifting was super easy shackles were no problem, took like 20 min to put in the keys took about an 2 hours for one and about a half for the other he he learning along the way.
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nice looks real easy to do.. i got a shop i can do all this at so lifting the frame up wont be a problem.

do i just use the last holes on the shackle? that will give me about 1.5 -2"?

god i hate Tbars the front of these trucks dont flex for ****, almost got me in alot of trouble a couple of times. i guess SAS is the ultimate way to go but damn.. thats alot of work.

sweet thanx for all the help guys i think i got everything stright, now i just need to buy and install.. ill let yall know how it goes when i get around to doing it.

thanx again
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Your not getting the keys are you???
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NOOOOOOO lol whats with you guys and the keys.. im not getting keys haha

my bars are sagged i thoguht keys would be a cheaper solution but at 55 bucks a pop id rather buy bars than get keys.

i wheel my truck and its my DD i cant go cheap on mods.. i know i know i have a 3" bl but its so i can get 33's, 33's = more clearence, superlift plus 33's = waste of money, rcd ftw but no $$. plus RCD blus BL is too big for what i want right now.
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