Cooper STT' sin the snow?
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Nate, the new ones with siping should be decent in light snow. They should be quite good in deep wet snow because most mudders are.
It's been said many times by the northernmost people here: a true snow tire is specially designed with MANY, MANY biting edges through tread block design and massive amounts of siping, as a rule. They also tend to be softer compounds and wear quickly.
If you want a mud tire that is probably decent in bad weather, the siped muds in general are better. They're all "compromises" though. Some of them are quite good.
No experience with the STT, but the newer ones (with siping) look very good and should be adequate.
Or to put it another way: if I was buying mud tires for my daily driver offroad vehicle -- that's what I'd buy.
It's been said many times by the northernmost people here: a true snow tire is specially designed with MANY, MANY biting edges through tread block design and massive amounts of siping, as a rule. They also tend to be softer compounds and wear quickly.
If you want a mud tire that is probably decent in bad weather, the siped muds in general are better. They're all "compromises" though. Some of them are quite good.
No experience with the STT, but the newer ones (with siping) look very good and should be adequate.
Or to put it another way: if I was buying mud tires for my daily driver offroad vehicle -- that's what I'd buy.
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It's these: http://www.coopertire.com/us/en/Prod...ht+Truck+Tires
There are two versions. The one linked and the "STT Radial". Both have radial plies, but the one I linked is the stronger version and has the siping.
It looks like this:
The old version looks like this:
As you can see, the older version is the traditional, unsiped, mud tire. The new one is much more aggressive in a number of ways, including the sidewall design.
There are two versions. The one linked and the "STT Radial". Both have radial plies, but the one I linked is the stronger version and has the siping.
It looks like this:
The old version looks like this:
As you can see, the older version is the traditional, unsiped, mud tire. The new one is much more aggressive in a number of ways, including the sidewall design.
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The April and June 2005 issues of Petersen's 4 Wheel Offroad magazine have some stuff on them -- but I don't remember if it's relevant or not.
The problem is, Nate, these tires are VERY new, and I'm not sure they were even driven in snow last winter. You may have problems getting much in the way of first-hand information on such a new product.
The problem is, Nate, these tires are VERY new, and I'm not sure they were even driven in snow last winter. You may have problems getting much in the way of first-hand information on such a new product.
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i will say one thing, though...
the bead on the new tires does suck.
my tire place had a hard time getting them all on, without tearing the bead up...
2/4 of mine became defective, and bubbled out, off of the rim...
so, make sure that you get them put on at a place that knows what they are doing, and will warranty their tires/work...
otherwise, you might be out some money...
the bead on the new tires does suck.
my tire place had a hard time getting them all on, without tearing the bead up...
2/4 of mine became defective, and bubbled out, off of the rim...
so, make sure that you get them put on at a place that knows what they are doing, and will warranty their tires/work...
otherwise, you might be out some money...
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Originally Posted by Strider0O0
cool, cool. i like them. do you know of any place in our area that has them at a good price by any chance???
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Originally Posted by n3elz
Ah, Shane, they are not a good mud tire, sorry. I understand what you're saying, but they're not "good" in mud the way most offroaders define "mud"...
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Originally Posted by Trevelyn1015
i love the tires, but having 2/6 defect... (6, because i got 2 replaced)...
i would be hesitant to buy cooper's from a dealer that was far from my home.
as, this may become a common trend, the beads tearing up...
i would be hesitant to buy cooper's from a dealer that was far from my home.
as, this may become a common trend, the beads tearing up...
I hope the newer one's they didnt make it thinner...
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Originally Posted by Strider0O0
john, do you know what the newer ones that you are mentioning are called? if im getting my body lift for xmas (hopefully).. then ill be wanting to get a new set of tires.. but, becuase of our weather around here, im gonna need something that can handle snow, as well as play in the dirt.
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