Looking forward to seeing them, I want to get a print put up on here. Thanks for doing this.

Mark

 

Ok I have almost all of the information to draw up the top coil-over spacers, just curious what the width of the coil-over's top mount is.. If anyone had one laying around it would be helpful. Seems all these parts are unavailable, or hard to get- having a detail print would be nice...

 

Yep that's the same thread I posted a link to in this thread already last week...very good thread to READ.

 

Assuming your talking about the upper aluminum spacer (RCD part #20-833167) needed to get the flat mounting for the upper bracket...you can still buy them, they are only like $3 or $5 each directly from RCD (866.469.7257).

For that little amount of money, it wasn't worth me trying to make my own...time is money! I just got them about two weeks ago myself.


Tonight I SHOULD be able to get everyone some pictures along with measurements for those aluminum spacers off the actual RCD ones.

 

i had a spacer in the truck. i just took some quick pics. here ya go. let me know if you need anything else..

 

Sweet....got me off the hook to do it tonight! lol

That should be what he was looking for, all the data is there. Good job!

 

logan, once you begin on your own coil0over endeavor you should start your own build thread because i'd love to follow in your steps and having that would be SUPER helpful thanks

 

Yeah, I will be keeping track of all the part numbers & manufacturers I end up using. I have just about everything shipping my way right now for my "experiment/gamble". I ordered a few different spring setups as well as limit strap lengths...so I can play around and find a setup that works the best for my application (stock height truck).

But it might be alittle while before I get working on my truck...winter weather and real life gets in the way sometimes!

 

so according to your example. the 20/14" coil-over won't work for a 16/10" because it's too long and isn't in the proper range of travel? even though it's a 6" travel.

i'm just trying to understand this coil-over thing. also, spring rate and valving effect the ride because the coils have to be tuned to the vehicle in question. they can't be used in a broad selection of vehicles.

what would be the average life span of a coilover? do you replace the whole unit or just the strut?

one more thing. it sounds like it's easier for someone to do this swap if they are considering the superlift upgrade as the "off the shelf" fox coils-overs are made for that height. correct?


EDIT:
i decided to do a little searching after sending a pm and reading the "my coilover...." thread.
i don't know if this would help anyone but it did help me eshocks.com: Bilstein Off-Road Shock Guide

since it seems to get overlooked and forgotten, mudslanger's valving was 70/50 as posted in post 231 of his thread. according to the chart i posted, his valving is extremely soft and bilstein doesn't list them in the chart but they were custom for the ranger from fox (apples to oranges). would that make his ride stiff or soft?

 

As long as the valving and total length was correct for the vehicle you planned on using it for, I can't see where having too much travel would be a bad thing. As long as you didn't have too little travel, bottoming out the coilover. Which might broaden the available choices in shocks for anyone looking to do a coilover conversion???

As far as the valving, I have no idea..

Just some thoughts I was having...



GB :)

 

Some info I have gathered from various websites during my research:

Valving numbers vary by brand. In general Bilstein uses xxx/xx. The xxx is the compression damping and xx is the rebound damping, both in Newton Meters per Second. King uses shim thicknesses. For example, the compression stack might be all .010” Shims and the rebound stack might be .012” shim thicknesses. Fox uses percentages. For example 50/70, where 50 means 50% of the available compression damping and 70 means 70% of the available rebound damping.


If the place you’re buying your coil-overs from don’t ask you about your vehicle and it's usage, or they don’t offer free custom valving...don’t buy them from them! My guy asked about how my truck would be used (% on road versus off road, type of vehicle etc). Since I'm buying Fox brand coil-overs so I mentioned the 70/50 used in that other thread, but due to my truck being on road for 60% of the time, he recommended I modify it to a 70/65, thus raising the rebound damping to "slow it down a bit when it try's to unload from being compressed".

 

Well for the "superlifted" trucks I have confirmation that a standard 6" Fox coil-over will work per Mudslangers thread (with proper custom valving).

I have not been able to find specific info that the standard 5" travel Fox coil-over (also with proper custom valving) will work on a stock height Ranger...but I plan on finding out! Hence my "gamble"!

I’m betting that since the larger coil-over works without being custom beyond the valving (which any “real” dealer should be able to provide recommendations on), the slightly smaller version should work on a non-lifted truck! But I guess I will be finding out!

 

Just drew this upper spacer quick, for some reason the detail drawing isn't working, will have up print later. I know they are available from RCD, but they may not be forever.

 

Yep...which is why in that same post I offered to post pictures of the measurements later that night...but Jacob beat me too it!

His pictures should be everything people need to make that part if they have to.

(I'm sure they are saying "THANKS Jacob!")

 

If anyone needs Bilstein numbers, I'm running 360/80 in my front Bilstein 7100's and it feels pretty good. This is with the otherwise factory SLA front suspension with near stock travel and torsion bars but the damping settings should work equally well in Bilstein coilovers.

 

A "let's keep this thread alive" bump

 

I was wondering what happened to this thread..


GB :)

 

Well for what it's worth...

On my end everything has been ordered for my “gamble”...I got the chrome upgrade on my Fox CO’s so it takes an additional 4-6 weeks to get them.

I've been purchasing everything else, including a couple different length Eibach springs to play with, and once I get around to putting it all on my truck I plan on making a separate mini-build thread with all the part numbers and everything documenting what I did for my stock suspension setup.

Once I know everything works, I will post all the details I have been collecting. I've been keeping a record of all the part numbers, places I bought from, who I got help from and the total costs.

 

Sounds good, man--keep us posted.
MikeR

 

Hey KLC how are those bracket drawings coming? Cant wait to get these in CAD and get them on the CNC plasma.

 

amen!!! gahh i called them like 4 days too late!

 

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I cant wait to the brackets are done!

 

a cad drawing of the brackets would be awesome, going to get rid of my t-bars come spring time!

 

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