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Has anyone done this recently and found a coil over that a company stocks rather than a custom order
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Has anyone done this recently and found a coil over that a company stocks rather than a custom order
What do you mean? ORW makes a kit for factory rigs, or used to.
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I had contacted Nick at ORW and he said he would get back see what he could find for specs, but he never got back to me....

Kit has not been available for quite some time. I am trying to organize all the info available into a kit form, don't have the two biggest components, coil-over specs, and bracket info. I would just make them and put them up myself, but don't have money to buy a set of coils/limit straps/bump stops...
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I am trying to organize all the info available into a kit form, don't have the two biggest components, coil-over specs, and bracket info...
The coil-over part #'s for a super lifted truck have been posted in this thread. They were verified by another member as working..no "custom" coil-over is needed.



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Well for what it's worth...

On my end everything has been ordered for my “gamble”...I got the chrome upgrade on my Fox CO’s so it takes an additional 4-6 weeks to get them.

I've been purchasing everything else, including a couple different length Eibach springs to play with, and once I get around to putting it all on my truck I plan on making a separate mini-build thread with all the part numbers and everything documenting what I did for my stock suspension setup.

Once I know everything works, I will post all the details I have been collecting. I've been keeping a record of all the part numbers, places I bought from, who I got help from and the total costs.
Winter here is slowing down any progress besides buying everything....
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The dimensions in yellow are defined, but the dimensions in brown need to be known to make a print. If anyone is able to get some dimensions for this upper bracket mount that would be great. Lower mount dimensions would be great also


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I can't make heads or tails of that drawing on the left. It looks like two pieces are overlapping, and it appears there are some pieces missing other than the upper mounts?


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This is the side of the upper mount bracket, just a rough drawing. Was hoping someone could fill in the brownish dimensions


guess they show up white... so the darker harder to see dimensions, the ones dimensioned to the center lines are not necessary just the others...
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just to clarify, this is just one side of the upper mount
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haha what the hell

Edit: ok just a shot in the dark... KLC's original drawing had 1-3/4" width flat pieces around the three sides...

The width of the coil-over mounting hole is 1.25", so the total width of the upper mount should be 1.75" inches, with 1/4" spacers on each side... I can try to clarify if someone is confused

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Almost have mine done. I know you guys have been waiting.
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Looks good. See, I knew it could be done. Just more difficult then it should be.
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Ill be curious to see these.


Mark those drawings look good, had to take some serious time to figure that out.
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I can't believe I had such a huge brain fart on reading that drawing. It's been too long since I've been at work. I'm ashamed.

Nice work man.



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I can't believe I had such a huge brain fart on reading that drawing. It's been too long since I've been at work. I'm ashamed.

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This is nothing final, but it could be finished up in moments with a couple dimensions. Here is my quick draw of the upper bracket, with no holes...

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Now if I could just get a few of the important angles I could have a fully dimensioned print....

Oh and hole spacing
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Look what I get done when I accidentally forget to go to school

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Now I just have to clean up the lower bracket and this should be close to complete

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Question:

On the lower brackets, are the mountin holes place in any certain location? Can the just be anywhere on the bracket? From what I can tell holes are drilled in the control arm. It seems placement of the brackets needs to be exact, and if it wasn't the suspension dampening on either side would be off. Probably isn't as important as I am making it out to be.

The further in on the lower control arm the bracket is mounted, the more leverage on the arm, and a heavier spring needed.

Now I am thinking more and this is less of a problem, because the coil-overs are adjustable-but it would be good to start out with both sides the same....

Sorry for rant but it seems relevant
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Two of the holes on the lower bracket are preexisting. So, yes, it does matter. Those two need to match up with the preexisting holes. The others have to be drilled so they can be pretty much put anywhere.
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Two of the holes on the lower bracket are preexisting. So, yes, it does matter. Those two need to match up with the preexisting holes. The others have to be drilled so they can be pretty much put anywhere.
Thanks KLC. Don't suppose you have the dimensions of the holes on the bracket from any of the sides? Also one other dimension that should be known to make these would be the angles of the upper bracket. I just kinda guessed off of how the brackets look on your drawing.

For the two existing holes, it would probably be best to not pre-drill. I think that marking the holes than drilling would be best, unless solid dimensions were known.

As soon as I get the dimensions all solid, I will post up actual printable prints, that could be take to a shop and get this done. I just don't have the time/material/money to actually engineer this myself right now. Just trying to put the information all together that is available. If someone had a working bracket/coilover and could take a few rough measurements I could finish up the parts list and prints.

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Just a teaser shot of the finished design project...

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Still need to add bolts, nuts, washers, and clean up all pieces

If ANYONE has upper brackets laying around, it would be great if I could get a few measurements.

The lower bracket seems best welded to fit.... correct me if I am wrong

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If someone here has Pro-E student edition, I could give the file and you could change it, make it better, or just use it. Send PM if you would like it.

I am looking forward to make a how to post-but re-engineering this is lot of work. A few rough measurements would save hours of my time, and get this project moving

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For the lower bracket, all we're left with is "welded to fit" and I think people would be better off doing just that. The top brackets angles would be relatively important if you ask me. It'd be nice if someone with a spare set laying around could get the exact angles for us.


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For the lower bracket, all we're left with is "welded to fit" and I think people would be better off doing just that. The top brackets angles would be relatively important if you ask me. It'd be nice if someone with a spare set laying around could get the exact angles for us.


Your drawings are killer.



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I think welded to fit is the best way to do it. The upper bracket back mounts and angles is really what is most cricitcal to the design
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