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The superlift brackets are 3.5" and with the coilover you can adjust the preload a bit to match the height in the rear weather its +or-
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And If I read correctly EVERYTHING is included in the kit that is needed OTHER THAN the shocks and coil springs, correct?
Limit Straps. Bump stops.
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Thanks guys. Any idea what the "standard weight" coil springs are being used
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Any idea what the "standard weight" coil springs are being used
Guys have been using anything from like 600 to 750 pound springs (a few even lower) - It's almost a preference type thing.

But like '01RangerEdge' already mentioned to you - I would think you want to start at the 750lb setup and go from there (Due to your plow).
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To clarify for some, and get it on the latest page:

Latest Pricing:
Kit with powdercoated brackets: $290
Kit with raw brackets: $270

Shipping:
$17 US
$46 Canada

Kit includes:
4 brackets (2 upper, 2 lower)
4 gussets to reinforce shock tower
2 shock tower spacers for upper mounts
8 rod end spacers (for 1/2" wide rod ends--like Fox)
All hardware to install--grade 8 zinc plated

What else you will need:
2 coilover shocks
2 coil springs
2 limit straps

You may need bump stops if you are lifting your truck at the same time, but if you already have a Superlift, or if you are remaining at stock height, you can reuse what you have. You simply need to trim back the bracket on the frame where the bump stop mounts, so that the coilover will clear it. You then redrill a hole in the remaining part of the bracket and mount the bump stop further in.



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How much is it for the kit? I would love to get in on this, my torsion bars have the kevlar on the adjustor and iv just been informed that it is a discontinued item! Edit: Nevermind i seen the price, how would i go about ordering a raw kit with shipping to canada?

I would like to see how they put Kevlar on a bolt. The threads on the nut and the socket/wrench you use would chew it all off.


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I would like to see how they put Kevlar on a bolt. The threads on the nut and the socket/wrench you use would chew it all off.
Sorry my bad, on the 95-97 explorer theres kevlar on the key thats bonded to it. 98-up have a kevlar pad between the key and mount. The key with kevlar bonded to it is now a discontinued item.
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Post pics, I am curious to see what these look like.
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Ill have to post a link to photobucket, im on my phone

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Thats one of my adjusters, as you can see theres kevlar bonded to it

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Me00stepside , I would also like to put an order in for a powder coated kit. I Pm'd You, but im not sure if You got it. Can You please PM me so i can send You my contact info. Thank You.
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New ones have a rubber or poly piece that fits between where the Kevlar was
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Deisel_brad, I have 800lbs with would work great for you application. Look for my "for sale" thread. It would save you a couple bucks. They are just taking up space in my garage.
Can they be dialed down when the plow is off? Or does that change the alignment?

I know nothing about coil overs, so .....

And you have a PM
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Me00stepside , I would also like to put an order in for a powder coated kit. I Pm'd You, but im not sure if You got it. Can You please PM me so i can send You my contact info. Thank You.
Latest Order List:

Round 4:
1. SteelDirigible - Powdercoated - paid
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3. bilzy7 - Powdercoated - paid
4. FFBill - Raw
5. Jatha05 - Raw - paid
6. bigmoon - Powdercoated - paid
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8. tylerbird - Raw
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10. Jared152 - Powdercoated
11. c.obrien - Powdercoated


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obie - Powdercoated
entrixable - raw
AC3.0 - Powdercoated

Guys in the red, please contact me ASAP and let me know what is going on. Otherwise, I'm going to first come, first serve. I hate to do this, but I've already paid for everything. I can't sit on these.
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Round 5:
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More questions.

I will assume when using the lift brackets, the shocks are longer but the coils are the same length?
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I will assume when using the lift brackets, the shocks are longer but the coils are the same length?
I get confused when you say 'lift brackets'...

If you had the full Superlift setup, you would use a different length coilover as well as a different length spring with the same rating (if you want).

I know I have posted the specific part numbers (that people have confirmed work) multiple times over the past 2+ years this thread has been going on for.
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I get confused when you say 'lift brackets'...

If you had the full Superlift setup, you would use a different length coilover as well as a different length spring with the same rating (if you want).

I know I have posted the specific part numbers (that people have confirmed work) multiple times over the past 2+ years this thread has been going on for.
Yes, by lift brackets, I mean the Superlift brackets.

Thanks for filling me in. And YES this thread is full of info, just hard to find it all.

Are there any specifications as to lift(hard measurements and point to measure from) the Coilovers give and how much the Lift(superlift brackets) give?
I just dont want to waist my time if it will not raise the truck over its current height(21" from center cap to fender flare(front), 23" from center cap to fender flare(rear)

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Are there any specifications as to lift(hard measurements and point to measure from) the Coilovers give and how much the Lift(superlift brackets) give?
This conversion isn't meant to provide any 'lift' at all - It's about ride quality.

This coilover conversion on a stock truck doesn't provide any real lift at all. You can only get about what you get out of a healthy torsion bar crank - perhaps a little more, but you still run into bad CV angles in a hurry.

This coilover conversion on a Superlifted truck doesn't gain you anything over what a standard Superlift truck with a torsion crank can give you.

Now sure, if your torsion bars are sagged - you will gain the original height back - but only to the same extent that replacing your sagged torsion bars with a new set of bars would.

This coilover setup is all about the quality of the ride.

This setup will ride much smoother than a cranked torsion bar setup would (height vs. height).


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This conversion isn't meant to provide any 'lift' at all - It's about ride quality.

This coilover conversion on a stock truck doesn't provide any real lift at all. You can only get about what you get out of a torsion bar crank - perhaps a little more, but you still run into bad CV angles in a hurry.

This coilover conversion on a Superlifted truck doesn't gain you anything over what a standard Superlift truck with a torsion crank can give you.

Now sure, if your torsion bars are sagged - you will gain the original height back - but only to the same extent that replacing your sagged torsion bars with a new set of bars would.

This coilover setup is all about the quality of the ride.

That is kinda what i am trying to figure out. How bad are my 2 year old torsion bars. It doesnt seem like they took the abuse. I am wonding if the coil overs(with the correct springs) will keep the "lift" unlike it seems the torsion bars have Not
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I am wonding if the coil overs(with the correct springs) will keep the "lift" unlike it seems the torsion bars have Not
Sure, if you have the proper springs up front they won't sag.

You were overloading the stock torsion bars, that's why they sagged. So, as long as you don't overload the coilover springs, they won't sag.

On a coilover setup you can always increase the spring rate if they do sag some - they are relatively cheap.

That's part of the joy of coilovers - They are fully customizable.
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Sure, if you have the proper springs up front they won't sag.

You were overloading the stock torsion bars, that's why they sagged. So, as long as you don't overload the coilover springs, they won't sag.

On a coilover setup you can always increase the spring rate if they do sag some - they are relatively cheap.

That's part of the joy of coilovers - They are fully customizable.
What is the going rate for coils?

My front axle rating is 2710lbs. I would guess I would at least need coils to cover that, if not more so I would need 1,355lb coils?
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What is the going rate for coils?
Assuming you mean springs - they run like $50-60 EA.
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Assuming you mean springs - they run like $50-60 EA.
WOW!, this is cheap
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Well yes, the springs are.

It starts to add up for some people once you add these conversion brackets as well as the actual coilovers themselves to that bill.

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Bumping to last page:

Latest Order List:

Round 4:
1. SteelDirigible - Powdercoated - paid
2. RLong31 - Powdercoated
3. bilzy7 - Powdercoated - paid
4. FFBill - Raw
5. Jatha05 - Raw - paid
6. bigmoon - Powdercoated - paid
7. moonliteshawn - Powdercoated - paid
8. tylerbird - Raw
9. ecrase2500 - Powdercoated - paid
10. Jared152 - Powdercoated
11. c.obrien - Powdercoated


Round 5:
moneypit - Powdercoated
obie - Powdercoated
entrixable - raw
AC3.0 - Powdercoated
Diesel_Brad - RAW

Guys in the red, please contact me ASAP and let me know what is going on. Otherwise, I'm going to first come, first serve. I hate to do this, but I've already paid for everything. I can't sit on these.


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