P0316, P0306, P2272
#1
P0316, P0306, P2272
Hello, I have a 2006 3.0 that has a nagging misfire and o2 sensor problem. I have done all of the following:
New plugs
New wires
New coil pack
New O2 sensor
New fuel filter
New injectors
Compression test: cyl 6 @ 105
The o2 sensor keeps causing a solid check engine light, even though it's new. I have a crack in my driver's side exhaust manifold, but not sure if this is causing the misfire as well. I'm going to swap it out after tomorrow. I will update on if this resolved P2272 issue.
Regarding the misfire, I just had the heads replaced about a year ago. I don't expect this to be the issue. Also, I've had some recent shenanigans with the crash detector switch cutting off fuel to the engine for no apparent reason. I just need to reset the switch when it happens, then I'm good to go. Otherwise, I have a random flashing cel, things get shakey, I lose power, then give it some gas and it comes back to normal.
After replacing all of the parts listed above, the truck runs GREAT!!! I just cannot shake these codes.
Please let me know if I can provide any additional information. Thanks!
New plugs
New wires
New coil pack
New O2 sensor
New fuel filter
New injectors
Compression test: cyl 6 @ 105
The o2 sensor keeps causing a solid check engine light, even though it's new. I have a crack in my driver's side exhaust manifold, but not sure if this is causing the misfire as well. I'm going to swap it out after tomorrow. I will update on if this resolved P2272 issue.
Regarding the misfire, I just had the heads replaced about a year ago. I don't expect this to be the issue. Also, I've had some recent shenanigans with the crash detector switch cutting off fuel to the engine for no apparent reason. I just need to reset the switch when it happens, then I'm good to go. Otherwise, I have a random flashing cel, things get shakey, I lose power, then give it some gas and it comes back to normal.
After replacing all of the parts listed above, the truck runs GREAT!!! I just cannot shake these codes.
Please let me know if I can provide any additional information. Thanks!
#2
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Welcome to the forum
Answered this at the other Ranger foruim
Do compression test for all 6 cylinders, cold engine test
If any are lower than the rest, then add oil to those cylinders then retest
If low cylinders do NOT come up to the average of the others then you have a valve issue in the lower cylinders
If your average compression is 140psi, then any cylinder lower than 126 is bad, 10% difference
2004 to 2006 Rangers with 3.0l Vulcan engines had recessed exhaust valve seat issues, causing intermittent compression issues
Answered this at the other Ranger foruim
Do compression test for all 6 cylinders, cold engine test
If any are lower than the rest, then add oil to those cylinders then retest
If low cylinders do NOT come up to the average of the others then you have a valve issue in the lower cylinders
If your average compression is 140psi, then any cylinder lower than 126 is bad, 10% difference
2004 to 2006 Rangers with 3.0l Vulcan engines had recessed exhaust valve seat issues, causing intermittent compression issues
#3
Welcome to the forum
Answered this at the other Ranger foruim
Do compression test for all 6 cylinders, cold engine test
If any are lower than the rest, then add oil to those cylinders then retest
If low cylinders do NOT come up to the average of the others then you have a valve issue in the lower cylinders
If your average compression is 140psi, then any cylinder lower than 126 is bad, 10% difference
2004 to 2006 Rangers with 3.0l Vulcan engines had recessed exhaust valve seat issues, causing intermittent compression issues
Answered this at the other Ranger foruim
Do compression test for all 6 cylinders, cold engine test
If any are lower than the rest, then add oil to those cylinders then retest
If low cylinders do NOT come up to the average of the others then you have a valve issue in the lower cylinders
If your average compression is 140psi, then any cylinder lower than 126 is bad, 10% difference
2004 to 2006 Rangers with 3.0l Vulcan engines had recessed exhaust valve seat issues, causing intermittent compression issues
#4
Cylinder head replacement advice
So, compression tested all cylinders and 6 is low. Wet test showed a slight improvement in compression, but there is definitely an issue with #6.
I'm thinking about getting a brand new head for that side, but there are a lot of options. Can anyone offer advice on a reliable brand? Also, any brands I should avoid?
Thank you
I'm thinking about getting a brand new head for that side, but there are a lot of options. Can anyone offer advice on a reliable brand? Also, any brands I should avoid?
Thank you
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Yes, Ford engine assembly plant got undersized exhaust valve seats, as far as I know, these were used on 3.0l engines assembled in 2003 to 2005 so effected 2004 to 2006 Ranger model years, its not a 100% failure so no recall, just a TSB for service departments
Unless you buy USED heads from a 2004-2006 Ranger then I can't see an issue, it wasn't a design flaw it was a parts flaw
You can even have your heads rebuilt, basically a Valve job
It just takes longer to get truck back on the road
Usually when you buy heads there is a Core Charge, because they want the old heads to rebuilt and sell
Unless you buy USED heads from a 2004-2006 Ranger then I can't see an issue, it wasn't a design flaw it was a parts flaw
You can even have your heads rebuilt, basically a Valve job
It just takes longer to get truck back on the road
Usually when you buy heads there is a Core Charge, because they want the old heads to rebuilt and sell
Last edited by RonD; 12-30-2019 at 02:14 PM.
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It is hard to say about the machine shop. If there is paperwork to show the valves and seats were checked and/or replaced that is one thing. It may even be a slightly bent valve for some reason. Unfortunately there is only one REAL way to figure it out and that is removing the heads. If you can afford the down time you can remove them and take then to a reputable machine shop and have them inspected. They usually charge about $100 to clean and inspect and pressure test.
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