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WINSTAR 2003 IN A RANGER 2000 3.0L ENGINE

Old Aug 14, 2020
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WINSTAR 2003 IN A RANGER 2000 3.0L ENGINE

I have a 3.0l ford ranger 2000, that I plan to do a 3.8l Windstar engine swap cos of the power it has , compared to the 3.0l.

The engine block, seems to match the bolt patterns on my 3.0l transmission system.

I have discovered the following when I Behan inspecting the Essex 3.8l Windstar engine:
1. The plastic intake manifold, faces the rear of he engine.
is there a way I could reuse this Windstar intake manifold, or I need to do some modifications?
2. The egr is at the rear of the engine too. I need to delete the EGR entirely here.
3. How do I position the throttle body to orient exactly where the throttle body cables were before this mod?
4. I might need to replace the water pump to the ranger one.
The upper radiator hose on the engine block, is facing the rear of the engine, instead of front as seen in some Taurus or rangers.


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Yes the Windstar front wheel drive 3.8l should have same bellhousing as 3.0l Vulcan

Not sure what can be done about the intake, mustang did you that engine in RWD setup
Look here at what vehicles used the 3.8l to see if you can find a RWD intake that works for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_E...gine_(Canadian)

The head gaskets are different when mounting an engine sideways or front to back, not just the water pump
Same for the 3.0l in taurus or ranger
So you can get hot spots if you just swap water pumps


 
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Yes the Windstar front wheel drive 3.8l should have same bellhousing as 3.0l Vulcan

Not sure what can be done about the intake, mustang did you that engine in RWD setup
Look here at what vehicles used the 3.8l to see if you can find a RWD intake that works for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_E...gine_(Canadian)

The head gaskets are different when mounting an engine sideways or front to back, not just the water pump
Same for the 3.0l in taurus or ranger
So you can get hot spots if you just swap water pumps
1. I didn't take the engine from a RWD drive system, but from a Windstar vehicle.
2. So would a RWD gasket from any 3.8, fit on to the block of the Windstar engine?
3. Won't the water or oil pan from the 3.0 be easily swapped to the 3.8?

Thanks for the replies RonD!
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Originally Posted by RonD
Yes the Windstar front wheel drive 3.8l should have same bellhousing as 3.0l Vulcan

Not sure what can be done about the intake, mustang did you that engine in RWD setup
Look here at what vehicles used the 3.8l to see if you can find a RWD intake that works for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_E...gine_(Canadian)

The head gaskets are different when mounting an engine sideways or front to back, not just the water pump
Same for the 3.0l in taurus or ranger
So you can get hot spots if you just swap water pumps

The link you provided isn't working.
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_E...ine_(Canadian)
 
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Found a link to the swap you are considering: https://www.therangerstation.com/tec...-6-conversion/

 
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Originally Posted by RonD
Found a link to the swap you are considering: https://www.therangerstation.com/tec...-6-conversion/
Hi RonD. Thanks for the link. I have seen that before now, and the was what informed my decision to attempt swapping the 3.8l Windstar engine.
Now, I'm stuck with the throttle body facing the firewall now, etc.
I'm trying to think of any 3.8l engine on the vehicles listed on the link, to see if I can swap put the throttle body.
 
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Is there room where you can rig up a pulley ?
 
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Is there room where you can rig up a pulley ?
Hi Jeff! Rig a pulley how? The 3.8l engine is still not installed in the hood of ranger yet.
My problem is how to get an intake manifold, where the throttle body would be facing the front like my stock 3.0l engine, etc.
Any ideas on how to go about that?
 
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I don't think the throttle cable would be a concern, you can get a longer cable and run it with a long bend to the back so it doesn't kink

The air tube would be the harder thing
You will just need to find a RWD 3.8l engine and swap intakes
Not sure if you need to swap upper and lower, or just upper, that would be for you to eyeball when you find the RWD engine
 

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Hi Jeff! Rig a pulley how? The 3.8l engine is still not installed in the hood of ranger yet.
My problem is how to get an intake manifold, where the throttle body would be facing the front like my stock 3.0l engine, etc.
Any ideas on how to go about that?
What Ron said would work and be more simple.
 
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Originally Posted by RonD
I don't think the throttle cable would be a concern, you can get a longer cable and run it with a long bend to the back so it doesn't kink

The air tube would be the harder thing
You will just need to find a RWD 3.8l engine and swap intakes
Not sure if you need to swap upper and lower, or just upper, that would be for you to eyeball when you find the RWD engine
Thanks RonD. That's what I'm just trying to find. A RWD 3.8l intake swap would have being great.
I'm still looking for any vehicle with that setup really.
 
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Originally Posted by RonD
I don't think the throttle cable would be a concern, you can get a longer cable and run it with a long bend to the back so it doesn't kink

The air tube would be the harder thing
You will just need to find a RWD 3.8l engine and swap intakes
Not sure if you need to swap upper and lower, or just upper, that would be for you to eyeball when you find the RWD engine
Hi RonD. I'm just wondering. Can I use my stock ECU, and all that?
 
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