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Old May 5, 2006
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K&N intake suckin water

hey guys i have a 2000 ranger xlt w/ the 4.0 i just put a K&N FIPK on it and i noticed that some of the other models come w/ like a full schroud around the filter and mine just has the one heat shield for the MAS to screw to. and i am kinda leary about goin muddin in it cuz i dont want it to suck in some water. i was woderin if anyone has had a problem with it suckin in water or if it will be ok.
 
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im not a know it all but when i went to wharton on the 23 of april i went into some holes (not filling up to the engine) but i didnt have any issues with it suckin in water. it should be fine. ill let other ppl post their stuff to. i have not had ne probs with mine
 
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Because the filter takes in air from all around it, you'd have to SUBMERGE it to REALLY suck in major amounts of water.

Compare this to a stock air box with a single inlet hole at the bottom of the box, well below the intake tube level.

For this reason, I put a ring of 1" holes around the top of the bottom section of my stock air box. If you look at my avatar you can see I'm not having problems either, lol.
 
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on my FIPK, i had some dirt inside the intake tube, and i dont even offroad that hard, so i made a splash shield for it. ive posted it 100 times here, but if you want me to post a pic of it again, i will
 
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i have thought about makin one can you post your pic or make a like to one that you have already posted just so i can get an idea of what it might look like
 
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here is the one i made for my FIPK
 
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Old Oct 26, 2006
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Originally Posted by n3elz
Because the filter takes in air from all around it, you'd have to SUBMERGE it to REALLY suck in major amounts of water.

Compare this to a stock air box with a single inlet hole at the bottom of the box, well below the intake tube level.

For this reason, I put a ring of 1" holes around the top of the bottom section of my stock air box. If you look at my avatar you can see I'm not having problems either, lol.
John, can you explain this further? As you saying a stock air box is more prone to sucking in water while wheelin'? Seeing what happened to Travis, I thought my stock box would be in a better low-risk situation since the filter is convered. It sounds like you're saying the opposite.
 
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Travis unit was drooping into the lower section of the stock box, which had not been removed. It acted as a "channel" or "cup" to accumulate water which Travis engine then "sipped" like the intake was a straw.

My stock box has holes drilled in all sides at different levels to make sure it can't retain water no matter what direction it comes from.

I think cone filters should not be a problem unless they get immersed. In Travis case, iit DID get immersed.

The stock, late airbox is relatively immune to water from what I've seen. Very few people try to cross the really deep water like I and others do, but shallower water which hydrolocked older Rangers generally leaves newer ones totally unaffected -- cone filter or not.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2006
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Originally Posted by this_is_nascar
John, can you explain this further? As you saying a stock air box is more prone to sucking in water while wheelin'? Seeing what happened to Travis, I thought my stock box would be in a better low-risk situation since the filter is convered. It sounds like you're saying the opposite.



^ Thats because your stock box sucks in from one spot...if you get water in it it will suck it in, where are an open area will suck in from everywhere, so alittle bit of water wont hurt it.....because it will suck air from the top....

Either way water isnt good for it at all, so you should avoid water / make a snorkel into the cowel like l2en did



He beat me to it...
 
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Yes. Keep in mind I've crossed water over 3 feet deep at high speed and had no sign of the water getting into the engine. All those holes in mine basically render it a lot like a sheilded cone filter.
 
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Thanks. I think I understand. Would my '01 4.0 SOHC be considered one of the "newer Rangers" that are not as affected?
 
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Originally Posted by n3elz
Yes. Keep in mind I've crossed water over 3 feet deep at high speed and had no sign of the water getting into the engine. All those holes in mine basically render it a lot like a sheilded cone filter.
So, that being said, with a stock air box and stock air filter am I better off leaving it alone or drilling some holes in the airbox?
 
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Originally Posted by RockysFord
^ Thats because your stock box sucks in from one spot...if you get water in it it will suck it in, where are an open area will suck in from everywhere, so alittle bit of water wont hurt it.....because it will suck air from the top....

Either way water isnt good for it at all, so you should avoid water / make a snorkel into the cowel like l2en did



He beat me to it...
Thanks, however I never intend to go in 2' of water. What I'm trying to do is be as "safe" as possible, if for some reason, it enter water that's deeper than I had anticipated. I have no desire for a snorkel setup and have no intent of going thru something that deeper than the bottom door opening. I'm not hard-core enough to not be bothered by water entering the cable. If that were to happen, I'd be so bummed.
 
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So, that being said, with a stock air box and stock air filter am I better off leaving it alone or drilling some holes in the airbox?
I think drilling holes. But some may disagree. I can only say: so far, so good...

...your mileage may differ, lol.

I'm really at a loss to tell you what's best. I've done what I've done and I hit water REALLY hard to get across and I'm fine. I intend to do a snorkel though, to be really safe in case I ly get in REALLY deep water. A soggy truck is better than a hydrolocked truck for sure.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2006
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Originally Posted by n3elz
I think drilling holes. But some may disagree. I can only say: so far, so good...

...your mileage may differ, lol.

I'm really at a loss to tell you what's best. I've done what I've done and I hit water REALLY hard to get across and I'm fine. I intend to do a snorkel though, to be really safe in case I ly get in REALLY deep water. A soggy truck is better than a hydrolocked truck for sure.
well i cut most of the sides on the bottom of mine off and it helped a lot with the k&n drop in
 
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Old Oct 27, 2006
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You could also get a water repellant outerware from www.outerwearsracing.com They work quite well. They also make cleaning your filter much easier and faster because they filter out a-lot of the junk that would normally go into the filter.
 
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