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Ohv and sohc swap

I have a? I have recently took out my 03 4.0l v6 sohc Ford ranger engine but the repairs are just to many to reinstall the same engine. My ? Is would a ohc fit?
 
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I have a? I have recently took out my 03 4.0l v6 sohc Ford ranger engine but the repairs are just to many to reinstall the same engine. My ? Is would a ohc fit?
the pushrod 4.0 would fit, but you would have to swap all the wiring over and you should check your local emission laws. A swap like that could be illegal
 
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If it was llegal and all would it be an easy swap or no?
 
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No, you need to put 4.0l SOHC back in, 4.0l OHV would not be an easy swap and it would be a bad swap as well

4.0l SOHC was a better engine than the OHV, it just had a bad timing chain design, once that was repaired they were fine
1997 to 2003 4.0l SOHC had the old design, 2004 and up had the newer design
If you put in the newer design in a 1997-2003 4.0l SOHC then it will run fine for many years
 
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Thanks for the info!!. How about an 2007?
 
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Used 2004 to 2011 4.0l SOHC would be good to use, will have the updated parts

Should be plug and play, but Ford could change wiring connectors a bit in any year, not something you will know until you are doing the swap, but it won't stop the swap from working, just need to repin a wire or two
 
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Originally Posted by RonD
Used 2004 to 2011 4.0l SOHC would be good to use, will have the updated parts

Should be plug and play, but Ford could change wiring connectors a bit in any year, not something you will know until you are doing the swap, but it won't stop the swap from working, just need to repin a wire or two
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I replaced my 2003 SOHC with one from a 2008 4x4.

Even with exhaust manifolds, it bolted right in. Different wiring, of course, but I transplanted mine onto the donor. Basically, use only the long-block.

My only headache left is finding where that flippin "leftover" vacuum tube to my HVAC goes so I can have air come out of my vents
 
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Originally Posted by RonD
No, you need to put 4.0l SOHC back in, 4.0l OHV would not be an easy swap and it would be a bad swap as well

4.0l SOHC was a better engine than the OHV, it just had a bad timing chain design, once that was repaired they were fine
1997 to 2003 4.0l SOHC had the old design, 2004 and up had the newer design
If you put in the newer design in a 1997-2003 4.0l SOHC then it will run fine for many years
Hi All. First timer here...is there any known compatibility issues with putting a 2002 4.0L SOHC out of an Explorer 4x4 into a 2006 Ranger XLT same engine? The 2006 threw the timing the other day and is bound so my guess is there will probably be valve damage if not a lot of other lower end damage. I have access to the 2002 explorer that is still running quite well but has extensive transmission issues so my hope is to salvage the Ranger and squeeze some more life out of it. I'm not sure I could justify doing the full engine pull and timing repairs only to end up needing a complete rebuild or new engine anyway so I'm hoping someone can provide some insight on the 2002-2006 compatibility. Thanks
 
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No issue on fitment, but wiring may be different, as I had mentioned earlier.

The long blocks will be the same as they were widely used in Explorers, Rangers, Mustangs, and even Range Rovers, although, 2005 and later models had fixed the timing chain issue.

The one issue that may come up is emissions. Depending on your state's emissions laws, you may have to use your current year engine or newer. You may not have the option of grabbing an older one to swap.

Double check before this headache comes up.
 
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Thanks so if I find a 2004 4.0l sohc or newer it will fit my 2003? Will it fit even if my truck is 4wd and the donor engine ain't?
 
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Yes, it will work, but you may have to change oil pans between 2WD and 4WD models, not sure on that
 
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Thanks for the info now why is the 04 and newer ranger sohc engines timing components better than the 03?
 
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Thanks for the info now why is the 04 and newer ranger sohc engines timing components better than the 03?
ford worked 'most' of the bugs by then, but they still are not what i would call a perfect motor by any means
 
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Thanks for the feedback atleast when the timing chain components go bad do you still have to pull the engine?
 
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I believe the timing chain tensioners were the weakest point. I think the springs inside (used before oil pressure took over the job) weren't up to the task of keeping tension to the chains.

During cold starts...that dreaded rattle...it got worse on mine over time to where I would have to depress the brake and gas to keep it from rattling.

Yes. You will have to pull the motor to change the passenger-side timing chain tensioner because it's far back. Some have figured a way to do it on Explorers, but I have a big HVAC thingie in the way in my Ranger.

Not a perfect motor, no, but when it's running well...which was for 195000 miles...

Quick revving and good power for what I needed, sure!

The only thing I needed to do was to replace the thermostat housing at 150,000 when it started to leak. The rest was maintenance.
 
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Thanks for the feedback atleast when the timing chain components go bad do you still have to pull the engine?
yes..engine has to come out as they still used the rear cassette
 
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Thanks and yeah I mean what do I expect I had to pull my engine out for the the first time last year after my timing chain cassettes broke after 235.000mi. But after I replaced it's only been a year and I had to pull the engine again due to them breaking again? I don't know if it was because I went cheap and payed about $80 for the master kit or because they were not tightened to spec? But now I have to replace the engine because the valves mad contact with the pistons. But the. Again the engine did last I mean it has 254.000 original miles on it.
 
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