Nope it kept running when I took it off

 

Ok then it's in the relay or starter. did you see the wiring diagram ? im guessing relay because its giving power to the starter.. ck the wiring on the relay with the diagram. could the relay be upside down? can't tell from the pic. but there is a small post in the center bottom of the relay.

 

where can I find the diagram

 

do you have the other solenoid relay?

 

In your very first post on this thread,

You say the starter turns off when you disconnect the small wire

Later on you say that it does not turn off the starter

 

Sorry found the wiring diagram Also to answer the question yes there is a small post labeled with a I on the bottom and the red cap wire is going to the small post with the S

 

Okay maybe I'm getting mad confused and missing things. When I disconnect the red cap wire the starter keeps running but when I remove the wire on the big post on the right side it turns off the starter

 

Here is to clear it up and sorry for confusion

 

Did it do this with the old relay, and is that why you replaced it?

 

Yes it did this with the old relay and I replaced it because of that and also a piece snapped off it

 

if the wire to the red cap is hot. 12v with key on run not start I'd think its in the ignition switch. are you sure the wiring on the starter is right?

 

The only thing I can think of now is that bigger red wire you have going to the battery is to small and causing the relay/solenoid to heat up and stick.

ad another red wire of that same size, or temporarily use a jumper cable from the battery + to that post and see if that changes anything.

 

I'm sorry what do you want me to do?

 

yeah I'm pretty positive that the wiring is right

 

thats a good idea. remove the red cap wire. make a jumper wire and run it from the + side of the battery to the terminal where the red cap was on. the starter should turn. when you remove it it should stop .

 

here ck this post.

https://www.ranger-forums.com/genera...anking-173862/

 

Alright will do

 

 

Alright sorry, not trying to sound dumb here but how would I do that? Splice another wire to it and hook it up to the post or am I missing something?

 

Make another wire just like it and run it right beside it, use both.

Or temporarily use a jumper cable, one end on the battery + and one end on that post, leaving the wire that's already there.

 

https://www.carparts.com/blog/wp-con...4x614.jpg.webp

There are 2 larger posts
One is wired to starter motor below, just has that one wire, wire is attached and tight out of the box(M post)
Other larger post is for your battery positive wire(B post)
The smaller post is your activation wire, it gets 12volts to activate starter relay/solenoid when key is turned to START(S post)
When activated the relay/solenoid connects the 2 larger post together giving starter motor 12volts to start spinning, it also moves the starter gear out to engage the flywheel/flexplate

If battery positive wire was put on the same post as starter motor wire OR is touching the other larger post OR the "S" post, then................starter would come on when battery was hook up again

this is from Ron D

 

like this?

 

Yes

 

im not sure whats going on now but the ground isnt connected to the battery?

 

Doing this online makes it more difficult, not being able to see the whole setup and follow each wire.

I don't think the solenoid/relay is bad, because it did this with the first one.

I really think there is a wire hooked up to something that it shouldn't be.