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Out of curiousity... you say that you are going to run the same t-case to not mess with the driveshafts. But that means your engine/tranny combo is going to have be mounted to the T-Case before building mounts for the engine/tranny, correct? As I'm guessing a 5.0 with 4R70W is longer then a 3.0 with whatever the Tranny is. Also, since I'm guessing the engine will be mounted farther forward, any possible Radiator issues?

I mean with the years being so close I would guess that it will work just fine, but just my thinking I guess.
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well im not going to keep it a 2wd. that's dumb.. what happens when I really need it and I don't have it. ill just buy this adapter and run my ranger transfer case, if it blows up then it blows up haha.

this adapter kit comes with the new tailhousing and output shaft so I should be set with this setup. no other parts are needed.
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Out of curiousity... you say that you are going to run the same t-case to not mess with the driveshafts. But that means your engine/tranny combo is going to have be mounted to the T-Case before building mounts for the engine/tranny, correct? As I'm guessing a 5.0 with 4R70W is longer then a 3.0 with whatever the Tranny is. Also, since I'm guessing the engine will be mounted farther forward, any possible Radiator issues?

I mean with the years being so close I would guess that it will work just fine, but just my thinking I guess.
the explorer motor mounts fit right in the ranger frame with no modifications. that's why they make this adapter kit. the adapter kit replaces the tail housing from the 4R70W transmission with a smaller/bigger size output shaft and tail housing. this adapter kit pretty much allows you to mount the bw transfer case to the 4R70W transmission and keeps the bw in its factory location. this is why they made the 9in and 5in adapter kits for the differences in sizes of motors and transmission. Also no modifications to the mounting points are needed with this kit.
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well im not going to keep it a 2wd. that's dumb.. what happens when I really need it and I don't have it. ill just buy this adapter and run my ranger transfer case, if it blows up then it blows up haha.

this adapter kit comes with the new tailhousing and output shaft so I should be set with this setup. no other parts are needed.
your really gonna have to beat (which you dont do) that 1354 to break it.. sure its chain driven, and aluminum housing, but I haven't exploded mine yet (minus ripping the front output shaft out) no one else on this site has broke theirs either as far as i know.
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yea people have supercharged their rangers and haven't had any issues with their transfer cases. im reallllly not that worried about it haha
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your really gonna have to beat (which you dont do) that 1354 to break it.. sure its chain driven, and aluminum housing, but I haven't exploded mine yet (minus ripping the front output shaft out) no one else on this site has broke theirs either as far as i know.
The adapter kit is for use with a 1350. Is the 1350 similar to the 1354 as far as bolt pattern?
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The adapter kit is for use with a 1350. Is the 1350 similar to the 1354 as far as bolt pattern?
yes
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the 1354 and 1350 are basically the same thing, but the 1354 has a larger chain and planetary gear set.
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I have a question based on the fuel system portion of this swap....

I was reading that the 99 explorer has a returnless fuel system running at 56-72psi.

And my 00 Ranger has the same returnless fuel system running at 56-72psi.

With that being said, do i still need that Fuel pressure regulator out of the explorer or should i be ok fuel wise with whats on my rangers fuel pump right now?
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you need it from the expo the psi is diffrent
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As far as I know, the psi on our 3.0s was the same or very close to the 5.0s. but if you had a 4.0 it was different. I left my 3.0 one in and its fine, tested it to be sure too.
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yea i got the 3.0.. Ill get that fpr anyway from the dude just to be safe then
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Are you doing this swap to convince Shane to do a 5.0 swap as well? Haha Cant wait to see it finished.
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I have a question based on the fuel system portion of this swap....

I was reading that the 99 explorer has a returnless fuel system running at 56-72psi.

And my 00 Ranger has the same returnless fuel system running at 56-72psi.

With that being said, do i still need that Fuel pressure regulator out of the explorer or should i be ok fuel wise with whats on my rangers fuel pump right now?
98+ Rangers run at around 65PSI regardless of engine displacement. Same for the 99~2001 Explorer donors. With your combination, there's no need to change the regulator. My stock 2003 Ranger pump worked fine with the stock 1999 Ex 5.0L. If you mod the 5.0, you may eventually need a higher volume pump but the pressure is correct as is.
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Bob i was actually waiting for your input on this topic and you came through. Thanks man!!! :)
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Are you doing this swap to convince Shane to do a 5.0 swap as well? Haha Cant wait to see it finished.
Im doing this swap to make him jealous actually :-D haha nah im doing this swap because i recently took a trip to san diego from phoenix and I swear if i didnt have a running start up those big hills I woulda rolled backwards. Watching neons, f150's, yotas and mini vans(WTF?) pass me with ease up those big hills while im flooring it is very discouraging. The 3.0 is not enough motor for my double lift and 35in muds. The 5.0 should give me the power i need and then some. So this is the route i decided to take.
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So I had the guy measure the 4R70W transmission from bellhousing to the beginning of the tailhousing and he came out to about 21 inches... With that measurement, it looks like ill need to buy that 9in adapter kit to bolt up my BW transfercase. With those measurements ill be able to bolt this all up with no modifications, Im glad i got that taken care of whew :)

PS: Just bought the adapter kit. Ill take pics once i start receiving parts :)

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Im realllllly considering buying the Torque Monster headers for this... The better gas mileage would probably pay for itself in a matter of months.... hmmmm That might be a last minute desicion once i get this motor in hand and ready for the swap....... :-P

at 689 bucks for 20 horses and 3mpg increase. Sounds like a winner to me

That will probably be the extend of my mods on this motor since i really want to keep this a DD and emissions friendly. Guys at work are already telling me to do cams, heads, headers, intake manifold, throttle body, and other stuff to get it over 300 horses. So many parts out there for this motor but im not ready to spend the money on it just yet. Maybe when its in the truck and i know its running well with no codes. But until then ill just enjoy it as is!!! :)

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Dude all this talk and no pics????!!!! To busy rubberizing your interior heh?
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yeah I'm getn the headers asap too. that and a mild cam and then a tuner is as far as I think I'm going
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Dude all this talk and no pics????!!!! To busy rubberizing your interior heh?
lol i dont have any parts in hand yet :( but ill ask for a pic of it still in the explorer :)
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yeah I'm getn the headers asap too. that and a mild cam and then a tuner is as far as I think I'm going
I think ill be doing the same as you!! That should get you about 30-50 more horses roughly eh?
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This is the motor still in the explorer... We are playing the waiting game for shipping and scheduling times to have it pulled and what not so this is how it sits now :)
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98+ Rangers run at around 65PSI regardless of engine displacement. Same for the 99~2001 Explorer donors. With your combination, there's no need to change the regulator. My stock 2003 Ranger pump worked fine with the stock 1999 Ex 5.0L. If you mod the 5.0, you may eventually need a higher volume pump but the pressure is correct as is.

That is interesting the several of you have had luck with the stock Ranger FPR. I ran my stock regulator for the first 5-10K miles that I had it running and it ran pig rich. I remeber you could smell it rich and the fuel trims were up around 30%. That was about 7 years ago now, so the details are sketchy! I can say that once I swapped in a return system with adjustable regulator and set to 42psi, things were much better.

Maybe had to do with the fact that my engine was a 1997 and converted to run with 1999 electronics?
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