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My 5.0L swap attempt :)

To start off I have a 2000 Ford Ranger 3.0L FFV 4x4 XLT. Im actually in the works in getting everything i need from a guy that has a 1999 Ford Explorer 5.0L. Here is the parts list of pretty much everything ill be getting from him:

-Complete Explorer 5.0L engine with all accessories, wiring and computer
-Battery cable harness
-Cruise cable
-Throttle cable
-Radiator hoses
-high pressure power steering hose
-A/C lines
-Exhaust manifolds and Catalytic converters
-Transmission(4R70W)
-Airbox, MAF, and Zip tube
-Fan and shroud
-Motor mounts
-Fuel pressure regulator

The only thing NOT mentioned in that parts list is the radiator and transfer case. The radiator Ill probably end up buying new somewhere(easy).

Transfer Case:I will be using my orginal transfer case out of my ranger so I will be using the adapter kit to make it work. This way i dont have to modify my rear and front drive shafts at all. Keeping it pretty simple without modifying anything.

Exhaust Manifolds:Im probably just going to stick with the Explorer Exhaust manifolds for the time being as I just want to get this motor in. Im not looking to mod this motor anytime soon after i install it so im not worried too much on performance as of right now.

Rear Axle:I have the 8.8 rear axle already in the truck so Im set on a beefy rear end.

Fuel System:As for the Returnless Fuel line. I have the 2000 ranger and ill be getting the 1999 explorer motor so i should have no issues in this department. NOW the only thing ill probably have to look at is the FPR in the fuel tank(Which the guy who selling me the motor is going to include in this package deal). Anything i should know about the fuel system before i move on with this project?

Ranger/Explorer Comparisions: Vehicle, Speed, Fuel and PATS
The 99-01 Explorer has the ABS/VSS from Rear Axle, No Fuel Return Line (Returnless) (56-72 psi), AND PATS(Type B)
The 99-00 Ranger has the ABS/VSS from Rear Axle, No Fuel Return Line(Returnless) (56-72 psi), AND PATS(Type B)

From looking at the comparisions between the year ranger and explorer, it looks like I will have to do VERY little modification to make this motor work in my truck.... Anything im missing here?

Oil Filter: Ford Racing has an oil filter adapter P/N M-6880-A50 that turns the oil filter 90 degrees. Looks like this is the route ill be going with the oil Filter issue.


Tachometer: This applies to my year ranger?

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Here's how you modify your Ranger tachometer for V-8 use:

1) Get your dash apart and disconnect the cluster
2) If you have a EVTM turn to the Instrument cluster section
3) Locate Pin 8 on wire connector C216 (Black/Yellow Wire)
4) Use a very small flathead screwdriver to release the pin from the connector housing
5) Find Connector C214 (largest of the 3 for cluster)
6) Install the wire removed from C216 in to slot 16 on C214. This slot is currently vacant.
7) Put everything back together and fire it up. You're all done.
Speedometer:Whats this mean? I dont need to do anything with my speedo because Im using the correct year explorer motor in my ranger?

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1998-2000 Rangers: 1999-2001 Explorer uses the same type of speedometer system as the 1998-2000 Ranger - no modifications needed. The 1998-2000 Rangers are not equipped with a VSS (Vehicle Speed Sensor). The PCM (Powertrain Control Module) receives vehicle speed information from the antilock brake system rear wheel speed sensor. The raw signal from the ABS/VSS sensor on the rear axle goes directly to the Explorer 4WABS module where the signal is corrected for tire diameter. Then the corrected signal is sent to the PCM, speed control, cluster, etc. In this system, the PCM is an end user of the corrected VSS signal.
PATS: This is what ill be doing, Ill just have my truck towed to the dealership and have them configure my Ranger keys and PATS module to the Explorer PCM.
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The 1999-2001 Explorer PATS is 100% compatible with a 1999-2000 V6 Ranger. If the Explorer PATS module and keys are also transplanted to the Ranger, they should work immediately with the Explorer PCM. If the original Ranger PATS module and keys are reused with the Explorer PCM, a dealer would have to "introduce" the new parts to each other before the engine could start.
So i pretty much compiled a list of things ill need and What ill need to do in order for this motor to work in my year truck. NOW, did i miss anything and is there some short of wiring i should know about before i go ahead with this project??

99 explorer motor in my 00 ranger. With everything mentioned above, When i install this motor and hook up all the wiring will this motor work for me with no issuses im unaware of? Any help would be awesome, thanks :)

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I'm not sure if you'll run into anything weird having your truck being flex fuel or not. probably not, but make sure thats the case. The hardest part is getting the wiring correct, and make sure the pats you get works FOR SURE. I had a long time of wasted hours spent on figuring out why my truck wouldnt work, and finally found out that the pats I had was crap.
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I wish it was as easy for me to do this as it is for you. Then maybe I'd like my truck lol.

Good luck, I'll be watching the thread for sure.
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Attempt eh? Gotta be more positive than that lol.

But I am subscribed as well.
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I am positive. And very excited about this swap. Im pretty good with wiring and the PATS is pretty much the only thing im actually worried about with this project. It seems pretty straight forward though. Not much modification is needed it seems like. I should have ALL parts in hand by the end of AUG. Im having all the stuff shipped to san diego at a buddies house Because i really dont want to do it in Arizona(heat sucks). Plus he has more room at his place. :) If you have any further inputs on this swap so im not blind sided by it when i get to that point of my swap, id really appreciate the help. Thanks
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Sound like you are going to have alot of parts in hand when you start, thats major. The only way I would say you could be blindsided is not having some misc. or even main parts at the time you start swaping. But sounds like you know all the parts you need to get started.

edit: also since you are dowth south I assume you really want your a/c. Make sure you get all the pipes and stuff for it. I didnt keep a/c in mine when I did the swap, but I'm in MN so its a bit easier to go without.
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Sound like you are going to have alot of parts in hand when you start, thats major. The only way I would say you could be blindsided is not having some misc. or even main parts at the time you start swaping. But sounds like you know all the parts you need to get started.

edit: also since you are dowth south I assume you really want your a/c. Make sure you get all the pipes and stuff for it. I didnt keep a/c in mine when I did the swap, but I'm in MN so its a bit easier to go without.
Yea i want to keep AC for sure. All pipes and everything is being shipped with the engine so i dont think ill have any problems there... Is all the AC stuff plug and play into my ranger or is there modifications needed for it to work properly?

I really dont know what other major parts ill be missing with that long list of things i mentioned. I think everything i mentioned above is all ill need to get this thing working. Misc nuts and bolts will probably be a concern. Maybe Ford parts department will be my new best friend when the time comes for this swap lol
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Decided to ditch the s/c?

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Rear Axle:I have the 8.8 rear axle already in the truck so Im set on a beefy rear end.
a 28 spline 8.8 isn't really THAT strong, its the same shafts as a 7.5. i would look into swapping in a 31 spline 8.8.
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a 28 spline 8.8 isn't really THAT strong, its the same shafts as a 7.5. i would look into swapping in a 31 spline 8.8.
you are absolutely correct thats why im looking at buying an explorer rear axle AFTER this swap. But it will do in the mean time :)

Limited slip, 31 spline, and disk brakes... It will be awesome!

And i decided to ditch the supercharger for the 3.0.. I figured id be wasting my time and money with this 3.0 motor. Figured id buy a 5.0 and then slap a supercharger on that :-D
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try and blow the current 8.8 up worse than i did
I'll send ya a cookie.




31 spline 9" shaft vs 28 spline 8.8" shaft ha
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haha you drive your truck in to the ground so this is expected from you lol
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So my blower ended up being a paperweight just like it was when I owned it?
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yea man, i was tired of looking at it and went a different route :( Want it back lol
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Ok so ive run in to a few small problems with this swap and i kinda want to get this issue resolved.. Ive posted this question in numerous places BUT i want to get a straight answer before i move on with this part my research....

The Explorer that im getting this 5.0 from has the 2wd not the 4x4 or AWD id hope for BUT it still has the 4R70W transmission in it. Giving the fact that its a 2wd transmission a transfer case CANNOT bolt up to this unless I get a 4x4 tail housing and output shaft put on from the same type transmission. Is this correct??

-Well then i did some more research at this website: Swapping An Explorer 5.0L In To A 1998-Up Ranger and found this adapter kit:
-Notice on the website what it says about the adapter kit.

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Measuring for the adapter:
Measure your stock transmission from the front of the bell housing back to the flange where the transfer case bolts to the transmission tailhousing. Now, measure the distance from the front of your new 4R70W back to where the tailhousing bolts on. In the photo below, you will see the new tailhousing bolted on for an idea of where to stop measuring to. Subtract the distance of the new 4R70W minus the tailhousing from the measurement you took from your original transmission back to the transfer case. The difference in length will tell you how long of a tailhousing you need to keep the Ranger transfer case in the stock location.
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To keep the current part time, 2-speed 4x4 transfer case, an adapter kit is available from Advance Adapters that will mate the 4R70W transmission from the 5.0L Explorer to the original Ranger Borg Warner 1350/1354 transfer case. They offer either a 5-inch or 9-inch adapter kit.

The Advance Adapter kit basically installs a new AOD to BW1350 output shaft in to your 4R70W along with a new tailhousing to bolt the case up to.
-Am i reading this right? This adapter kit IS the new tailhousing & output shaft for this transmission? If thats the case then i CAN use this 2wd transmission & this adapter kit & everything will bolt right up? probably just answered my own question here but just making sure this kit will bolt up to the 2wd 4R70W transmission as well....

-Why did they make 2 different size adapters for this adapter kit? I believe it was a 5 inch and 9 inch. From thier website it looks like they dont make the 5 inch adapter anymore, just the 9 inch.

-Will this 9 inch adapter kit work on my truck using my 1350 BW transfer case with the setup mention above without having to modify mounting points & driveshafts?

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haha you drive your truck in to the ground so this is expected from you lol
i was only trying to do a burn out

earlier that day when i was hammering on it i heard a loud bang, didnt think anything of it cause it still drove.. but a second even louder bang in the parking lot kinda ended all the fun. haha
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Yes you would need the 4wd adapter housing to be able to bolt up a transfercase.

That adapter kit you posted will not work for you. You can try here for parts.

Swap info: https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...-ii-meets.html
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Yes you would need the 4wd adapter housing to be able to bolt up a transfercase.

That adapter kit you posted will not work for you. You can try here for parts.

Swap info: https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...-ii-meets.html
actually this statement I don't think is true. the 2wd 4R70W transmission is the same as the 4wd 4R70W transmission besides the output shaft and tail housing. I would be wasting my money on buying a 4x4 tail housing when I buy this adapter kit because this kit replaces the 4x4 tail housing so how would this kit not work for me?
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actually this statement I don't think is true. the 2wd 4R70W transmission is the same as the 4wd 4R70W transmission besides the output shaft and tail housing. I would be wasting my money on buying a 4x4 tail housing when I buy this adapter kit because this kit replaces the 4x4 tail housing so how would this kit not work for me?
Well I didn't read the swap link since I only saw that the adapter was for AOD trannys but I guess you can use it. The only problem I see is that the 1350 case is weak. I can see it breaking behind a V8.
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he's just a poser it shouldn't be an issue haha
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he's just a poser it shouldn't be an issue haha
Well I was going to ask him how many times a year he throws it into 4wd. If its one or less then why bother using any t case. Well 4wd launches are sweet but a 1350 would do that 1/2 of one time since it will just disintegrate.
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yea the transfer case is weak but I hardly ever use the 4x4 anyway. im not worried about breaking it. :)
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if that kit replaces the tail housing then yes it should be fine. It wouldnt just stack on the end of a 4x4 tailhousing and make your t-case work lol. be a tad too long haha

If you dont plan to beat on the t-case much the 1354 should be ok. Just make sure you get the tailshaft situation figured out, You'll just need the one from the 4x4 swapped in since the 2wd one won't work.

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I honestly wouldn't even bother getting a t case. Run 2wd.
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