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^^^ umm start a build thread i want to know all your info bad because i want a 5.0 or 351 bad plz put tons of info up there arent alot of thread around the 97 and older trucks
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hey mudslanger, hope its ok, but i will prob. be asking you LOTS of questions in PM's.. i am prob. going to start getting parts that i need for this swap, and have NO idea where to even start lol..
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Downey... were you talking to me??? I wouldn't suggest putting that engine (see pics on page 10) into anything fuel injected... I doubt it would run right, even with countless hours of computer tuning. That engine has been done for over a year, and is in my Mustang. Its just a lil ole 302 "wink wink." Lol, those are E7 heads that I spray painted silver so they look like aluminum. EVERYTHING i just told you about the engine was a lie by the way.

The engine in my truck is a stock exploder engine with a 1" intake spacer. I am happy to report a 1 MPG increase in fuel economy with the spacer installed. Someday I will probably swap the rockers out AGAIN, but get new ones this time since the others were junk. I may also pony up for the torque monsters and an EE intake someday as well. But we will see. I don't really care if it makes a tone of power, I just want torque for daily driving. Besides, with more HP, the front axle would never survive. I have done an excellent job with it so far though.

When we start swapping my buddies 97 over to the 5.0, I will start a build thread (or let him create an account on here and start it himself) so that you can see what goes into swapping over the 95-97 trucks.
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Im going to look into that spacer right now. Anything to bump up my fuel mileage... So far, intake and headers have me bumped up a bit but never hurts to save more fuel haha

Got my Fan and Controller today... Ill pot pics in just a second :)
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Downey... were you talking to me??? I wouldn't suggest putting that engine (see pics on page 10) into anything fuel injected... I doubt it would run right, even with countless hours of computer tuning. That engine has been done for over a year, and is in my Mustang. Its just a lil ole 302 "wink wink." Lol, those are E7 heads that I spray painted silver so they look like aluminum. EVERYTHING i just told you about the engine was a lie by the way.

The engine in my truck is a stock exploder engine with a 1" intake spacer. I am happy to report a 1 MPG increase in fuel economy with the spacer installed. Someday I will probably swap the rockers out AGAIN, but get new ones this time since the others were junk. I may also pony up for the torque monsters and an EE intake someday as well. But we will see. I don't really care if it makes a tone of power, I just want torque for daily driving. Besides, with more HP, the front axle would never survive. I have done an excellent job with it so far though.

When we start swapping my buddies 97 over to the 5.0, I will start a build thread (or let him create an account on here and start it himself) so that you can see what goes into swapping over the 95-97 trucks.


yeah i was talking to you but at the time i forget that you already have a 5.0 but plz make a build thread i want to know what all goes into the swap
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I hate you... you just cost me a lot of money... lol

Looks good man, keep up the good work!
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yeah i was talking to you but at the time i forget that you already have a 5.0 but plz make a build thread i want to know what all goes into the swap
I didn't do my swap... I bought the truck from a used car lot with it already done lol. Good thing about it was that I got it for probably less than half of what the PO had in it. The bad part is that I can't help you with a build thread... right now.

Like I said, when I do my buddies truck, I'll be sure to do a write up for you guys.
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Fan and Controller.. I need a relay so I got that on order now, but in the mean time, ill install the fan and get it ready for wiring.
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well Shane, I didnt have the time and it was winter when I had mine going. plus mine would just be as dirty again so meh.
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MusdSlanger,
OK on the "no mods" for now, I only added header to my '88/5.0L setup; the stang motor was low mileage and ran well, WFWI...

I just didn't want you to get into the Head-Stud thing without thinking it through, then I got carried away, AGAIN !

Is the Heater Box still a problem with the 98+ Rangers ?

The truck itself is look'n good.

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whats wrong with the heater box? i never had to mess with the box at all when doing this swap.. everything fit right in like a glove :)
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not on the 98+ with a 5.0. If you did a 4.6 or 5.4 you would have problems with the heater box..thats just from what ive read
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not on the 98+ with a 5.0. If you did a 4.6 or 5.4 you would have problems with the heater box..thats just from what ive read
You are 100% correct.
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I didn't do my swap... I bought the truck from a used car lot with it already done lol. Good thing about it was that I got it for probably less than half of what the PO had in it. The bad part is that I can't help you with a build thread... right now.

Like I said, when I do my buddies truck, I'll be sure to do a write up for you guys.
yeah i remembered that now but plz do a super detailed thread a 351 isnt much bigger than a 302 right?
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A 351 is a bit wider than a 302, which would probably cause more problems than its worth. Unless your "building" your 351 i.e- aftermarket heads/intakes and possibly a stroker kit all expemsive to do, there wouldnt be a strong point in swapping in a windsor motor instead of using a 302.
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nice project you got there
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Hey mudslanger... just thought about something and thought I would bring this up... Your engine has the external EGR with a DPFE sensor. The mid 97 and down engines used internal EGR with an EGR position sensor. As far as an intake spacer goes... it would still work, but you will need to have the EGR tube extended an inch so that it will reach the Valve when it is raised with the intake. When it comes to bolt on performance parts, Im really glad mine is a pre 97! It uses basically all the same parts as the Mustangs (such as the EGR system is exactly the same). However, this is basically the only difference besides the heads (GT40 pre mid-97, GT40P post mid-97), and the exhaust manifold types (96-mid 98 were tubular stainless, 98 and up were cast iron). My engine is a late 98, with a 96 upper intake and wring harness, so I got basically the best as far as stock parts go.

By the way Downey, The 351 is roughly an inch wider and an inch taller than a 302. Not worth the extra hassle in my opinion. Heater box is already too big in the 97 and older rangers, you either have to have a body lift or install an explorer heater box. So... I would stick with a 302 based engine. However, you can go as big as a 363 with an 8.2" deck height (302 Based) block. Just depends on how much money you want to spend.
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Thanks, i didnt think of that.. oh well!!

My intake came in today and i have to pick it up from the UPS store tomorrow. Cant wait. Found out that the adapter hasnt even been shipped out yet so im a little mad about that! Damn it!!!
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whats wrong with the heater box? i never had to mess with the box at all when doing this swap.. everything fit right in like a glove :)
Was thinking the older heater design on the 97 back, my last 5.0L/Ranger swap was in an '88 and the heater box had to be mod'd.

Keep up the good work and no mod to the heater box is a good thing to know for future reference.

Thanks,
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thanks, ya this is what this thread is for, for people to come in and get every bit of info compiled in to one thread. maybe it will help other people from having to do so much research.
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Thanks man, its really cool that you are sharing with us. I know when I do my buddies Im gonna be checking back to this thread. Probably quite a bit...
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This weekend Ill be 100% done with the motor and I will clean the bay up and get this truck ready for the transmission... Ill be rewiring the tach as well... I hate waiting :(
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Agreed, at least you aren't waiting on suspension parts from Ballistic Fab, it'd e this time next year before you got the parts.

Didn't AA quit making the 5" Adapter? Maybe they are having to make you one and thats whats taking so long???
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