hmm i push alot from one 12... 2 of my 12's would probably kill and i know the higher end subs you dont need as many to get the sound of many.. so go to a shop and look and then buy online muahahah

 

Why not one 13w7 from JL? its a 13.5
louder than 2 15's easily and sounds WAY better

 

Louder than 2 15's?

JL fanbois make me laugh. A single L7 15 is easily as loud as a W7.

 

yeah maybe a 10w7
how many $30,000 have you seen? let alone helped installed?
thats right 0
trust me its louder than 2 15s i have heard and helped build
took 2 15s out of a boat put in one 13w7 its way louder EASILY
fanbois? my boss is a JL dealer
i know for a fact i know more than you about this stuff sorry

 

I got 2 cerwin vega 15s in a 6 cubic ft box tuned to 35 Hz in my extended cab ranger with only 300 watts to each speaker and they are loud. Im getting a crossfire 1000d amp for them here shortly. The only way to actually see wat is louder is put them on a meter.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofBRUBgYmQA orion hcca Vs. jl audio w7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyA-SpwwqKU orion hcca Vs. kicker solo x

i have a w6 in a sealed box and its runnin 300 rms and sounds good to me for now, eventually i will upgrade my amp but not yet.

 

One in the bed and you will be good to go.

 

stop giving away my secrets

 

Power Capacity: 800 w continuous (RMS) / 1600 w Peak

Recommended Power: 1200 w – 1600 w @ 8 ohms

Sensitivity: (1 w /1 m) 108 dB

Just wow!

 

yea i do like my hearing the way it is though lol

 

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAAAAaaAAA

JL W7 is a sound quality woofer. It was not intended for SPL. In fact, JL doesn't even kinder towards SPL competitors. Kicker, on the other hand, is a huge name in the SPL world. The L7 is intended to be loud. The fact that the W7 is loud is a bi-product of design. Decent power handling, liner Bl, and if you put that on a big cone, yes it will be loud. However, it doesnt make it the end all be all SPL driver. Two L7 15's will have a whole lot more cone area and motors intended for SPL. I'd put my money on on L7 15 ahead of a W7 13.5.

As far as $30,000...no I've never seen $30,000 cash. I have, however, seen plenty of $30,000 installs. I've attended numerous big car audio shows and competitions. I've sat in the King of Bass's truck many times. But how much money you can put into a car doesnt make it loud. SQ vehicles can cost way more than SPL vehicles.

When you can show me installs that produce numbers...


loud candy :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9GcmbW-zO0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldMW7...eature=related

The loudest truck I've ever sat in. I've sat in trucks that can put up bigger SPL numbers...but this is on music...160+ dB

 

sorry i meant $30,000 dollar installs
and i dont care if youve seen them
once you work on one get back to me
have you even heard a 13w7 as loud as it can go?
1 1/2" inches of travel both ways? what?
all im saying is you get what you pay for...

 

wow i just read this... not to be racist but are you by chance brown? as in easyt indian? WHY THE **** DO YOU WANT THQAT MUCH BASS? unless its for competition then your ****ed.... i got 2 type R 10's with a 1000.1 amp and i never have the bass turned up past 75%... when ur windshiels cracks thats too much

 

if your looking for quality and not just loud bass
then JL even a w6 will sound good
it just depends on what you wanna spend

 

agrred **** kicker go JL they have the best sound hands down.... and good thump too

 

exactly
who cares of a kicker can hit
if it can hit that doesnt mean it sounds good
if you want really good quality bass go with JL

 

Xmech is not Xmax nor Xsus. The W7 13.5 does not have 3" Xmax or Xsus.

The JL 13 W7 has 28mm Xmax IIRC. However, Xmax doesnt equal loud. Linear travel doesnt mean jack when you put it in a ported enclosure. Hence why DD doesnt even post (or at least hasnt for a long time) their Xmax specs. Their drivers have minimal Xmax compared to subs like the W7, the old RE XXX, etc... but are much louder on the mic.

But your back pedaling has already begun.

Like I said, money doesnt make a system loud. SQ installs cost as much or more than SPL installs.

Also, kicker has been sound quality world champion numerous times...using L7's at that. It's all in the install. Sound Quality and SPL are 90% install, 10% product.

My SI mags are louder than the JL W7 13. They also sound fantastic. Stereo Integrity Mags are designed to be SQ woofers, just like the W7.

Lets not forget that you said a single W7 13 will be louder than two L7 15's...simply a moronic statement. Assiming equally well done installs yo uare talking nearly three times the cone area, nearly twice the power handling capability, and drivers intended for SQ vs drivers intended for SPL.

So continue to be a JL fanboi. If I am going to pay $600 for a sub with just getting loud in mind, JL is the last place I am going to look.

I'm sure you'll come back with some hot shot rebuttle about how many super expensive installs you've seen and done. Agian, like I said, show me the numbers and I'll give you credit. You dont see the JL W7 in the SPL lanes 99% of the time. When you do, it is a.) someone who doesnt know much about SPL or b.) someone who is just trying it out.

I will give the W7 this, it is quite an old motor yet still hangs in there pretty well as far as daily SPL goes. When it was first released, it may have been the end all be all minus all out SPL drivers. However, times have changed and the W7 has not. However good a woofer, its intentions are far from SPL and its good SPL days have come and gone and blown away with the air movement of newer, louder speakers.

 

just cause its loud doesnt mean it sounds good
15s dont even make a good sounding bass they will always sound way to low all im saying is if you want quality go with JL
you get what you pay for
who cares about magazines and spls and sqs mxes xmechs and this and that lets not get to technical and worry more about what it sounds like vs. just really loud not so great sounding bass
and why would you want 2 15s? you would have to spend quite a bit on mids and tweets and such to make the rest of the stereo sound good otherwise it will just be drowned out by too much bass

 

and like MANY of the people on this thread have said why would you want that much bass? or need that much? you dont!
someone said they would rather have a much cleaner and crisper bass and your sure as hell not gonna get that with 2 15's let alone one 15