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Rear Sub Instead of 6x8 Co-Ax Speakers

I know nothing about audio, well a little but that can be worse.

I have asked for help on this site and an audio site and have received answers that are confusing to me.

I have been told not to run rear 6x8 co-ax speakers but instead run a 10 or 12” sub and use a 4 channel amp two channels for the front and bridge the other two for the sub.

How does the sound differ between 6x8 co-ax speakers and a sub with amp, will I get the same filling from the rear ?

And question two:

If the OEM 6x8 Co-Ax Speakers work OK for me now, will aftrmkt 6x8s with an amp work better and instead of the sub ?
(remember… no audiophile here so good sound is what I want not a lot of it).

I hope I worded those questions correctly !

Thks a head of time for any help !

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Two reasons for dropping the rear 6x8's (or leaving them to run off the head unit) and replacing with a sub is 1.) though you say you aren't an audiophile, obviously you are looking to improve the sound, and by ridding or toning down the rears you create a better front stage, which is how all music is listened to. You never listen with your back to the stage, so why do you want sound coming from the back? (that is rhetorical)
2) Though subwoofers have been stereotyped as loud-kiddie annoying bang bang sound, it actually will improve your sound quality by playing and reinforcing the notes that were meant to be heard that are lacking in the lower octaves. It also takes the stress off the speakers that cannot play those notes that well which in turn allows them to do their job better.

If you go with a solid front stage speaker set, you will never think about those rear speakers again. Anyone who has sat in my Mustang is nearly immediately converted to no rear fill necessary, and especially in the Ranger.
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^ Worded nicely... I agree

Since you are not looking for the bass to sound like a kids car, I wouldn't use a 10 or a 12, I'd go with a good quality 8" with an amp. That would fill the low range and give you some of what your missing. A 10 or a 12 would give you more, but at the sacrifice of space.

I have replaced all the factory 6x8's with Infinity Kappa components and thats just for me, I have a set of 12's but they take up the extended cab and are overkill for my normal listening.
My wife has complained about them before,but I have caught her turning it up louder to drown out some teens thinking the music in their hooptie is what the world wants to listen too...
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Thanks James.

DEFINITELY don't need a 12, but a couple 6.5's, a solid 8 or decent 10 will do great. When it comes to audio and TV I always say go a step bigger; you can always turn it down but can't go higher/bigger. And if really stressed about space when using 10's or 12's, don't forget that slim subs are becoming very popular.
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1. Slim subs sound like poop
2. How tall are you?
3. What's your budget?
4. Do you have an aftermarket headunit?
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A lot of info… I guess the idea of the rear fill is out.

Yes I want the music to sound good but the thing is I am not sure how to do it.

My head unit is a Pioneer AVICZ120BT.

Budget, don’t have one but do not want to spend a lot of money on speakers.

Also, if you didn’t read my sig the truck is a std cab so space is a premium, 8” woofer sounds good in size but what about quality of sound; will I be able to tell the difference between the 8”, 10”, and 12” ?.

To answer another question I am 6’2” so the seat is all the way back…

These are the front speakers I was going to get: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...TS-D1720C.html

This was the amp: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...M-D9500F.html; not sure if this will even bridge the third and fourth channels for a single woofer.

Woofer up in the air… not sure what or where to go… ?

What is up with the slim-line woofers, are they any good or not ?

One last question: Would the two 6x8 CoAx Speakers sound good… ? Something like these: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...TS-D6802R.html

Thanks for all of the input, something to think about.
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The speakers you picked out aren't bad from what I can see. The amp though, I wouldn't do it. let me show you an amp for the same price that is MUCH better.
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Here:
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...-ONX4.125.html

This amp is pretty much amazing. You can easily power a sub by bridging two of the channels. For a sub, since you don't want a whole lot of bass, I would just get something like a Sundown Audio sa-8. Make sure you buy a Dual 2 ohm sub though because that amp puts out 500rms bridged at 4 ohms. They don't take up much room and will provide you with the amount of bass that you're looking for. I would sell you my sa-8 but it's a Dual 4. Let me know if you want a sa-8 and I can find you one for a bit cheaper than others can.
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Thks for the input on the amp, I looked at it, is the 125W per speakers going to be to m uch for the Pioneer Speakers I have chosen.
AND how do I hook up the sub to it, does the 3rd and 4th channels bridge ?

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You can just keep it turned down so you don't hurt the speakers. And to hook the sub up to it you just bridge the 3rd and 4th channels.
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man tyler u push sundown almost as hard as i push DC

but for speakers i wouldnt go with pioneer,
http://cgi.ebay.com/CDT-AUDIO-CL-61A...item1c148bf672
CDT makes really good speakers. or phoenix gold
http://cgi.ebay.com/PHOENIX-GOLD-RSD...item19be6407de

for a 8, i would look at the DC lvl 2 8 or as tyler said the SA-8
the mbquartz amp tyler poster is good.
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though what u are paying for a set of comps, im getting 4 6.5"s mids, 4 1" tweets, 2 supertweets.
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that amp is pretty sick. I plan on buying that thing whenever I get a new truck
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I'm hopefully getting one over the summer. It's a beast haha
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What I decided to do for my audio in my standard cab is just a headunit and 4 aftermarket speakers. Infinity Reference 6832cf speakers to be exact. I am buy no means an audiophile. I don't do subs or amps. Though I would add an amp possibly. If you are just looking for better quality sound to listen to your music and you aren't trying to "bump" just upgrade your components.

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-fUbsB9C...ce-6832cf.html

And I've heard these Kappas are even better:
http://www.crutchfield.com/s_1086829...9cf.html?tp=93
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I have been thinking on this for a while and decided on four speakers to replace the existing speakers, no need right now for a Sub… !
Which ones is up in the air, the Infinity look good and I still like the Pioneer but… need to chose.
What about Boston Acoustic Speakers ?

What about interconnect cables, what brands are good quality ?
The amp calls for a 1/0 power cable that isn’t to hard to understand but what about the RCA Interconnect one, how do you determine what is good and what isn’t ?

Then there is speaker wire, I have always used Monster but I am wondering if this is just a Commercial Hype Product.

How much should I plan on spending on cabling, remember no pro-shop here ?
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I have Alpine S series speakers, specifically SPS 517's. I love the S series speakers, never let me down and sound great

I bought JL Audio RCA's to match the JL XD 400/4 amp I just got. The RCA's were originally $60 but I got it for $30 on sale I'm also running 12 gauge speaker wire from Knu Konceptz
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KnuKonceptz for cables, great prices and great quality
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A little late but thanks for all of the info.
I have purchased the Pioneer Speakers and Amp, may not be the best but this way I can fall back on Pioneer if this doesn’t sound good; for what I want I think it will do OK.
I listened to a buddies system, all Pioneer, and it sounds good to me.

When I get the shop cleaned out and the system installed I will psot again.

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